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This is why we need to start putting more of our network and power infrastructure underground imo. Sure you will have to worry about earth quakes in certain geographical areas but for the most part it would protect against the flares. Actually many of the newer subdivisions are putting power/transmission lines underground.

When a solar flare erupts the electron causes the polar points to shift (like a magnet) thus causing the electricity to become (confused?) so it's not really related to above or below ground unless the lines you have are equipped witch some kind of anti-magnetic protection or a spread spectrum(?).
Putting the lines/cables above or underground wouldn't help that much me thinks.

Just my scientific input but i might be really wrong (:
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Geomagnetic storm is caused by a solar wind shock wave and/or cloud of magnetic field which interacts with the Earth's magnetic field. The increase in the solar wind pressure initially compresses the magnetosphere and the solar wind magnetic field will interact with the Earth’s magnetic field and transfer an increased amount of energy into the magnetosphere. Both interactions cause an increase in movement of plasma through the magnetosphere (driven by increased electric fields inside the magnetosphere) and an increase in electric current in the magnetosphere and ionosphere. During the main phase of a geomagnetic storm, electric current in the magnetosphere create magnetic force which pushes out the boundary between the magnetosphere and the solar wind. The disturbance in the interplanetary medium which drives the geomagnetic storm may be due to a solar coronal mass ejection (CME) or a high speed stream (co-rotating interaction region or CIR)[1] of the solar wind originating from a region of weak magnetic field on the Sun’s surface. The frequency of geomagnetic storms increases and decreases with the sunspot cycle. CME driven storms are more common during the maximum of the solar cycle and CIR driven storms are more common during the minimum of the solar cycle.
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Coronal mass ejections release huge quantities of matter and electromagnetic radiation into space above the sun's surface, either near the corona (sometimes called a solar prominence) or farther into the planet system or beyond (interplanetary CME). The ejected material is a plasma consisting primarily of electrons and protons, but may contain small quantities of heavier elements such as helium, oxygen, and even iron. It is associated with enormous changes and disturbances in the coronal magnetic field.
Coronal mass ejections are usually observed with a white-light coronagraph.
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When the ejection is directed towards the Earth and reaches it as an interplanetary CME (ICME), the shock wave of the traveling mass of Solar Energetic Particles causes a geomagnetic storm that may disrupt the Earth's magnetosphere, compressing it on the day side and extending the night-side magnetic tail. When the magnetosphere reconnects on the nightside, it releases power on the order of terawatt scale, which is directed back toward the Earth's upper atmosphere.
This process can cause particularly strong aurorae in large regions around Earth's magnetic poles. These are also known as the Northern Lights (aurora borealis) in the northern hemisphere, and the Southern Lights (aurora australis) in the southern hemisphere. Coronal mass ejections, along with solar flares of other origin, can disrupt radio transmissions and cause damage to satellites and electrical transmission line facilities, resulting in potentially massive and long-lasting power outages.[4]
Humans in space or at high altitudes, for example, in airplanes, risk exposure to intense radiation. Short-term damage may include skin irritation with potential increased risk of developing skin cancer, but it is likely that any affected individuals would recover from any such exposure.[5]
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When a solar flare erupts the electron causes the polar points to shift (like a magnet) thus causing the electricity to become (confused?) so it's not really related to above or below ground unless the lines you have are equipped witch some kind of anti-magnetic protection or a spread spectrum(?).
Putting the lines/cables above or underground wouldn't help that much me thinks.
Just my scientific input but i might be really wrong (:


Positives and negatives switch?

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Positives and negatives switch?
Cars wouldn't start, cellphone wouldn't work, my rig would be broken....(!)

Exactly but AFAIK earth has never been hit by a storm of that magnitude besides that once when a part of Canada was out of power for weeks(?)
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Exactly but AFAIK earth has never been hit by a storm of that magnitude besides that once when a part of Canada was out of power for weeks(?)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859
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i kinda just always assumed the sun had "weather" like this
why would it not lol


Same, I've always assumed the sun would have extremely windy weather.

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FIRE TORNADOES! Now we're screwed for real.

They happen here on earth alsoo

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All this information relating to the huge CME that was suppose to happen (was posted awhile back on here) makes me think about it some more.
Even Michio Kaku said that it would even be the end of the world, and he is one of the smartest physicist in the world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPdqr2v1rTQ

That guy is a sensationalist and he just loves to be on camera. Dont listen to anything that guy says about end of world stuff, hes totally full of it. He take a few facts and uses them to instill fear in other. I actually know a lot about astrophysics, took a college class on it and got the highest grade in the class so I do know about this stuff... What that guy is basing his "opinion" on is simply the fact that the sun is due to switch its polarity in 2012 which is something the sun has done ever eleven years since forever. when the sun switch polarity, it either goes into a calmer state or a more aggressive state. The 2012 polarity switch is going into the more aggressive state. There has been some speculation that because the previous state was much more calm than usual this 2012 switch will be a much more aggressive than usual state but there is really very little to base that on. One could just as easily say that this will be more calm than the usual aggressive state.

To summarize, Michio Kaku is a total camera troll and no one should listen to his end of days nonsense which is infact based on very little evidence. The world is not going to end, the sun is not going to fry us. Its going to keep doing what is been doing the entire time life has existed on earth.
    
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Well.... no good news. What next?
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i kinda just always assumed the sun had "weather" like this
why would it not lol
Why would a polar bear walk on all 4?
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Height 100,000km.....
Just to give everyone an idea, the earth is only 12,600km in diameter...


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Edited by L D4WG - 3/29/12 at 8:58pm
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