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post #21 of 106
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Originally Posted by daydream99 View Post

What's wrong with that? You can just get second hand GPU's. I got my 8800gts 512 three years after it was released for $20 from CL and it plays everything.

I wouldn't call playing a game at 5fps, being able to play everything...
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This does make me curious as to what the performance of the "GTX 780" will actually be like. The GTX 680 is already a very good card.
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post #23 of 106
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Originally Posted by Partol View Post

What's wrong with the GTX 680's openGL performance?
openGL performance is important to me because I sometimes play openGL games.
got any links to GTX 680 openGL benchmarks?

It was a typo, i meant OpenCL.

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Originally Posted by Projector View Post

Its not nvidias fault, its amds. Nvidia even said at one point we expected the 7970 to be alot better, so they obviously saw the performance it was putting out and said hey we can get away with making our 670 a 680 and charging premium cause it trades blows with there 7970 tongue.gif

No actually it is only nvidia's fault, 580gtx price was to high, still is.. And since 7970 is faster then 580gtx, of course they're gonna put a higher price tag on it..

Now if nvidia lowered 580gtx right before 7970 launch Im sure it would be a lot different, 680gtx would be cheaper too...
Edited by TheHunter - 3/30/12 at 3:58am
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Originally Posted by ilikebeer View Post

Take a read...
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So, here's the bottom line. The GTX 680 is not a high end GPU. But it's being sold for the price of a high end GPU and that very likely makes it hugely profitable..
Is Nvidia's GeForce GTX 680 an imposter?
Anyone agree with the article? Nvidea must be raking in the $$$. I can see how it makes sense to make a card that is great at gaming because that's where the money is, but to price it at 499?
I'd buy it at 499 but with all the hype it costs 800$ in my locale (same country where it is manufactured)... which is more than I want to spend on a gfx card.
And where are the price drops? Seems both amd and nvidea are happy to price fix.

Your local store isn't ripping you off at all, this is just the way of the world. Almost all products are cheaper in America only exclusions i can think of are Canadian Gooose, that Norway jacket brand, and other country specific brands such as those. Other than that electronics, cars, books, videos, games, etc are almost always cheaper in America.
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Yeah, I don't get it. From what I gather people are saying the only high-end GPUs are the GPUs that haven't been released yet. If that's true then nobody will ever own a high-end GPU since the next best thing is always not released yet.
IMO the high-end GPUs are the best GPUs that are currently available to consumers. Maybe Nvidia could have done better, but that doesn't make their best consumer available GPUs mid-range GPUs. Especially not when it holds it's own against what everyone considers to be a high-end AMD GPU.
I guess i7s are mid-range CPUs too with that logic.

yeah you're correct, but what people mean is that its the mid-range part of the Kepler series and initially planned to be released as such whereas GK110 was supposed to take the high-end part.

Judging by nVidias reaction to the 7970 where they said how much more they expected from AMD, it's not unlikely that GK110 might even be ready, but they figured GK104 was enough to keep up or even surpass the competition and decided to release GK104 as high-end part in order to milk more money and charge premium for their initially planned mid-range part.
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post #26 of 106
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What's wrong with that? You can just get second hand GPU's. I got my 8800gts 512 three years after it was released for $20 from CL and it plays everything.

dafuq?!
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Reason why I'm keeping my uber silent and uber cool GTX 580.
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Yeah Nvidia and AMD are both making a killing with the current cards. AMD is selling the die size which used to be 360$ for 550$, and Nvidia is charging about 500$ for a GF114 replacement with a high end marketing name.

The reason why people call the GK104 mid range is because compared to other Nvidia flagship chips it is. Everything about the 680 screams mainstream, except the price and the marketing name, which are both really easily changed. The fact is that NV will release a higher end GPU because they need a chip that can satisfy their GPGPU market. It might be late like fermi was but it'll be here. (and no I don't mean a refresh like the 580 or what AMD would release for their 8K series, I mean a kepler chip with a bigger die)
 
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Your local store isn't ripping you off at all, this is just the way of the world. Almost all products are cheaper in America only exclusions i can think of are Canadian Gooose, that Norway jacket brand, and other country specific brands such as those. Other than that electronics, cars, books, videos, games, etc are almost always cheaper in America.

And why is it like that?

Is it because us dollars are the currency for all international oil transactions = free money for usa?

It doesn't make sense to me why i should pay almost 40% more when I live in the same country where these things are produced. Logistics of shipping these things from China to the USA means you should be paying more but alas. Oh well, when the bubble bursts it'll be Americans paying the most.

It is kind of ripping us off, not by just one store but all the retailers here including nvidea. The Nvidea recommended price for selling the gtx 680 in China is still 30% more than that in the USA. It's just wrong. The wages here are way lower too.

Saying 'that's just the way of the world' isn't really an explanation of justification. War is also 'just the way of the world' but that doesn't make it right.
Edited by ilikebeer - 3/30/12 at 9:49pm
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The worst part is if you want one, amazon has them but their price is jacked up to 649 dollars. Now that just crazy.
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