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So you are saying most issues are resolved now correct?

The major issue that was causing frequent bsod's was fixed in a firmware update by OCZ a little while back. They still suffer from some quality control but I don't think the firmware is giving any new customers an issue.
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post #12 of 43
Because, besides the Intel 520 they are cheap pieces of...LOL
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Basically I can get an OCZ Agility 3 120gb for $100 compared to $180 for an Intel 520. Thats a little hard to justify the extra $80 just to have Intel. Is OCZ reliable enough to go with this deal? Or would the $80 actually be worth it?

I also had that opportunity a few days ago and was tempted to buy one for my Netbook, but then I went to read the reviews and didn't like what I read, so I passed it. The WD Scorpio Black that comes standard with my HP Netbook is plenty fast anyway.

I value my data. And that has two meanings: if the SSD goes bad you lose your data, but they might get to retrieve it at the factory.
 
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post #14 of 43
Wow, so much misinformation in this thread.

When Anandtech reviewed the Intel 520 release, they noted that it was still possible to bsod Sandforce 2281 drives. They did it with two drives from different ssd makers.

They then tried the same scenario on the 520 and it did not bsod. Intel tested and validated Sandforce firmware for almost a year before release. The 520 firmware has Intel only fixes that none of the other Sandforce drives get.

Source.

Sure, Sandforce has cured the major widespread bug at this point. But there are other infrequent problems as well.

You want reliability and Sandforce, it's Intel only.
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post #15 of 43
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I also had that opportunity a few days ago and was tempted to buy one for my Netbook, but then I went to read the reviews and didn't like what I read, so I passed it. The WD Scorpio Black that comes standard with my HP Netbook is plenty fast anyway.

I value my data. And that has two meanings: if the SSD goes bad you lose your data, but they might get to retrieve it at the factory.

And if your HDD goes bad or you drop your laptop and your HDD croaks you lose your data...
post #16 of 43
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Basically I can get an OCZ Agility 3 120gb for $100 compared to $180 for an Intel 520. Thats a little hard to justify the extra $80 just to have Intel. Is OCZ reliable enough to go with this deal? Or would the $80 actually be worth it?

The Agility 3 is an economy drive. It uses asynchronous nand from the cheapest supplier and has a 3 year warranty. It falls on it's face with incompressible data.

The Intel 520 is a top tier drive using synchronous nand from IMFT, the joint nand venture between Micron and Intel. It has 5 year warranty and handles incompressible data well.

The Agility 3 is a Hyundai while the 520 is a BMW.
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In the beginning, Sandforce had crappy firmware which caused tons of issues. Now, those issues are resolved.

Basically this
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post #18 of 43
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And if your HDD goes bad or you drop your laptop and your HDD croaks you lose your data...

The likelihood of my HDD going bad is much less than the likelihood of some of those Sandforce based SSDs start having random problems like BSODs and resume from sleep issues.

I know I'm not comparing the same likelihoods and my HDD can suffer from other types of failures, but the thing is, it is much cheaper to buy a twice as large conventional HDD, and you can take the financial loss if it goes bad when you already had it for months working fine. On the other hand, with a brand new SSD you are tempted to return it to get a new one, but they get a chance to see what data you have in the NAND chips.

I don't think the technology is mature and cheap enough that you can reasonably invest in anything else other than tried and tested brands like Intel or Crucial or Samsung.
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post #19 of 43
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Wow, so much misinformation in this thread.
When Anandtech reviewed the Intel 520 release, they noted that it was still possible to bsod Sandforce 2281 drives. They did it with two drives from different ssd makers.
They then tried the same scenario on the 520 and it did not bsod. Intel tested and validated Sandforce firmware for almost a year before release. The 520 firmware has Intel only fixes that none of the other Sandforce drives get.
Source.
Sure, Sandforce has cured the major widespread bug at this point. But there are other infrequent problems as well.
You want reliability and Sandforce, it's Intel only.

Read about Intel's BSOD here (http://communities.intel.com/thread/27680?start=15&tstart=0). The occurrence might be smaller but it's still there.
Edited by vvista - 3/29/12 at 4:53pm
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Originally Posted by JedixJarf View Post

In the beginning, Sandforce had crappy firmware which caused tons of issues. Now, those issues are resolved.

Basically this
Basically not.
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Read about Intel's BSOD here. The occurrence might be smaller but it's still there.

When? Where? 0.o
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