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Originally Posted by jta98z View Post

Basically I can get an OCZ Agility 3 120gb for $100 compared to $180 for an Intel 520. Thats a little hard to justify the extra $80 just to have Intel. Is OCZ reliable enough to go with this deal? Or would the $80 actually be worth it?

It depends on your usage pattern. I have Agility 3 since launch and had two 2 BSOD's before F/W 2.15; none since then. It's very hard to tell which one is faster if you're a typical Windows user. The difference is tremendous from a 7200 rpm HDD though. Good luck!smile.gif
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Read about Intel's BSOD here (http://communities.intel.com/thread/27680?start=15&tstart=0). The occurrence might be smaller but it's still there.

I've been watching the Intel forum since release. The occurance is so small that there can be no confirmation of it being a firmware issue.
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Ive had an OCZ Agility 2 since launch as well as a RevoDrive 120 since launch. Both have SandForce controllers and I have had no issues.

Both of those are SF-1200 based SSDs which were stable at launch. The Vertex 3 and Agility 3 use the SF-2281 controller which suffered from BSOD and reliability issues from launch until recently. It seems like almost all the kinks were worked out around the time Intel released their SF-2281 SSD, the Cherryville 520, though some earlier SF-2281 SSDs like the Kingston HyperX and Corsair Force GT were also a lot more stable and reliable than OCZ's.

OCZ SSDs also tend to get blasted since they are generally perceived to be less reliable based on anecdotal evidence. Whether or not that's fact, I couldn't say since there haven't been any failure rates released.
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The likelihood of my HDD going bad is much less than the likelihood of some of those Sandforce based SSDs start having random problems like BSODs and resume from sleep issues.
I know I'm not comparing the same likelihoods and my HDD can suffer from other types of failures, but the thing is, it is much cheaper to buy a twice as large conventional HDD, and you can take the financial loss if it goes bad when you already had it for months working fine. On the other hand, with a brand new SSD you are tempted to return it to get a new one, but they get a chance to see what data you have in the NAND chips.
I don't think the technology is mature and cheap enough that you can reasonably invest in anything else other than tried and tested brands like Intel or Crucial or Samsung.

Depends on the circumstances.

If you want some data stored long term, and can afford to spend upwards of $1/GB, an SSD would be ideal. [This scenario would be like storing an SSD of important files in a safety deposit box within a financial institution of sorts.]

SSDs are a hell of a lot more durable than HDDs. As long as you don't have firmware issues from the start, and you don't write to it heavily, it's the perfect long term storage solution. No moving parts to fail if the drive is dropped, etc.
post #25 of 43
I work in the Service Center/Return for Canada Computer for about a years. Get a OCZ SSD Back almost on a daily basis and never got a single intel back because it was defect. Personlly i like the M4 better as it is cheaper and i only got something like 2 return over the year.
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Ive had my Patriot inferno for almost 2 years and its worked fine. i just got another sandforce SSD and i think it will be fine too thumb.gif
post #27 of 43
I have 2x corsair force 3 and 2x force gt, all in raid 0, never had bsod, never gave me any problem, just sayin.
post #28 of 43
i have 2 gskill pheonix pros , they have been great neither one has failed. I have had to restore twice in a year but i keep a backup on a home server . However Im running them in raid 0 and both times i think it was raid related.
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They aren't solved, im using an agility 3 with the latest firmware and it ~still~ has issues.
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I have 2x corsair force 3 and 2x force gt, all in raid 0, never had bsod, never gave me any problem, just sayin.

Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal. I could point you to tons of people who have never had an issue with Diablotek PSUs or the Intel P67 B2 stepping, but that does not mean that there's not something inherently wrong with the product. While the issues are almost completely resolved now (and most that aren't are a result of users using outdated firmware), saying that you have never had an issue does not take away from the fact that an issue did exist for quite some time.
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