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Even if you use multiple pcie cards and fill all the pcie slots, you wont hit the bandwidth limit bro, because each card uses a separate pcie slot. You are not plugging all cards in just one slot are you?

Yes, you shouldn't be able to. Its just a representation of what would have to be done in order to even try to cap out the bus capabilities. Which can be done, just not with video cards alone.
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Yes, you shouldn't be able to. Its just a representation of what would have to be done in order to even try to cap out the bus capabilities. Which can be done, just not with video cards alone.

Pcie bandwidth and bus capability are two different things bro
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Pcie bandwidth and bus capability are two different things bro

A bus capability is its bandwidth. There isn't anything else that a bus does except transport data between hardware. So in the real world, they logically mean the same thing.
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this is the question:
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i can get Sandy mobo and CPU kinda cheap thats not a problem. i heard a while ago that no graphic card fully uses PCIe 2.0...

and this is your answer
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They utilize the slot, but can't cap out its bandwidth which is correct. You won't ever touch the bandwidth cap of PCIe 2.0 unless your quad sli/crossfire big cards (i.e. GTX 590's) in your system. Or have a whole boat load of raid controllers hooked up (which again is highly unlikely). If you can grab up a Sandy Bridge setup for cheap right now then I would go for it. Rumor spec is Ivy Bridge might have a 8% IPC increase over Sandy Bridge. Which is a pretty nice increase but is going to cost a shinny penny as the product is going to be fresh off the line. We know the 2500k are rock solid performers, even I wouldn't be hesitant to pick one up if I had the opportunity for really cheap. But again we just don't know how well Ivy Bridge is going to be, sometimes rumors and speculation is dead on, and sometimes its way off. Either way if you buy aftermarket cooling (NH-D14) and crank the chip up to 4.5Ghz. There shouldn't be anything you cant do on it at a decent speed. And it should keep up with any game you wish to play with no bottlenecks.

a pcie 2.0 x16 lane has a bandwidth of 64Gb/s
so according to your answer, if you use multiple cards, you will hit the bandwidth limit of the pcie 2.0 which is 64Gb/s
your answer is wrong bro.
Edited by ghostrider85 - 3/30/12 at 1:03am
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A bus capability is its bandwidth. There isn't anything else that a bus does except transport data between hardware. So in the real world, they logically mean the same thing.

they don't mean the same thing bro, the bus bandwidth limit is the overall bandwidth of the system, the pcie bandwidth limit is just the bandwidth of a single pcie slot.

one pcie 2.0 x16 slot has a bandwidth limit of 64Gb/s, don't tell me that the bus bandwith limit is just also 64Gb/s? you said they are the same right?
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they don't mean the same thing bro, the bus bandwidth limit is the overall bandwidth of the system, the pcie bandwidth limit is just the bandwidth of a single pcie slot.
one pcie 2.0 x16 slot has a bandwidth limit of 64Gb/s, don't tell me that the bus bandwith limit is just also 64Gb/s? you said they are the same right?

We are talking about the PCIe bus in this thread. All my previous statements are correct.
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Yes, you shouldn't be able to. Its just a representation of what would have to be done in order to even try to cap out the bus capabilities. Which can be done, just not with video cards alone.

Obvious troll, get obvious reported.
Edited by Warmonger - 3/30/12 at 1:34am
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I think sandy is more than enough for todays games. Just my 2cents.gif
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We are talking about the PCIe bus in this thread. All my previous statements are correct.
Obvious troll, get obvious reported.

the thread starter is concerned about the graphics card not saturating the pcie 2.0 bandwidth, get your facts straight bro.
post #79 of 101
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the thread starter is concerned about the graphics card not saturating the pcie 2.0 bandwidth, get your facts straight bro.

Like I said a million times, it cant happen. Stop replying here if your going to give the OP inadequate information.
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Like I said a million times, it cant happen. Stop replying here if your going to give the OP inadequate information.

lol, i'm just telling the facts bro, facts. don't get mad. you are the one who is giving false info.


the statement below is false:

You won't ever touch the bandwidth cap of PCIe 2.0 unless your quad sli/crossfire big cards (i.e. GTX 590's) in your system.


you can quad sli/ crossfire without hitting the bandwidth limit of pcie 2.0, because each card will be plugged into a separate pcie slot, which has their own individual bandwidth limit that is 64Gb/s for an x16 lane.
now if you are talking about the the overall bus bandwidth, then you are right but you need to clarify it, because your statement above is just wrong
Edited by ghostrider85 - 3/30/12 at 2:49am
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