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And by low-budget, I mean really low budget (lol). I also have some minor technical questions which I’ll ask later but first my story. My tech skills was non-existant prior to this build and some of the experts here might find this boring but after reading about other people’s builds on this forum it inspired me to give it a try as well. I’m glad I did. I only use my computer for average use, no gaming or overclocking. I had an old Dell Dimension 3000 desktop (2004), mATX form factor, Pentium 4 Hyper-thread (single core), 256 mb RAM (upgraded to 2 GB RAM years later). When I bought this setup from Dell in 2004 I paid $550, at the time the price structure to upgrade to 1 GB RAM was an additional $150, which I had declined, the prices back then was outrageous. I digress and back to the topic at hand. For my build these are my components that I installed in that old Dell mATX form factor case;
1) Intel mATX socket 1155 MOBO, BOXHD61SA (supports Celeron, Pentium, Core i3, Core i5, and Core i7), $58 from Newegg
2) CPU-Intel Sandy Bridge Celeron dual-core processor, $51 from Newegg (I went with this economical CPU in the event I would not be able to get my system to boot and possibly scrap my project. Now that I know it works I’ll later upgrade to Core i5 quad-core)
3) Kingston 4 GB RAM HyperX Blue, $20 from Frys (now that I know it works I’m planning to max out at 8 GB later)

Initially, my plan was to use all of the remaining old parts. For instance, I’m using the old power supply unit (PSU), however, the old PSU had a 20 pin connector and the new MOBO has a 24 pin header so I got an appropriate adapter for that. The problem came when I intended to use the old IDE hard drive & old IDE CD ROM drive (using IDE to SATA converters, $10 each from Geeks.com). Whenever I booted up I would get this message;

“Intel (R) Boot Agent GE v1.3.65 IBA GE Slot 00C8v1365 PXE 2.1 Build 089 Copyright © 1997-2010. Intel Corporation.
PXE-E61: Media test failure, check cable
PXE-MOF: Exiting Intel Boot Agent.
Reboot and select proper Boot device or insert Boot Media in selected boot device and press a key.”

I was baffled upon getting this error message. I tried everything and every which way. I switched the jumpers on my IDE hard drive trying all different combinations (ie., master, slave, cable select, etc). I went into my bios and thought I assigned boot device priority giving my optical drive primary status over my hard drive. In my system setup this was the order;
1) Optical Drives
2) Removable Drives
3) Hard Disk Drives
4) Networks

However, in my BIOS this was my only Boot device;

Please select Boot device:
IBA GE Slot 00c8 v 1365 PXE 2.1

This is where I got hung up until I decided to try getting a SATA hard drive (WD 80MB, $24 refurbished) & a SATA DVD/CD rewrite ($15 new from NewEgg). Apparently my MOBO didn’t recognize the old IDE devices because after installing the new SATA devices my BIOS now displayed these options;

Please select Boot Device:
IBA GE Slot 00c8 v 1365 PXE 2.1
P1: WDC WD 800JD-75LSA0
P0: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH 22NS90

So I simply chose to boot up from my DVD drive and Eureka it works. I’m running Ubuntu/Linux for now. Windows 7 is on my wish list for later. The only problem I now have is the case fan (the case has only one OEM rear fan) which has a 3 pin power connector. My MOBO has a 4 pin rear fan header and I tried connecting the 3-pin fan power connector all the way to the right or all the way to the left but the fan doesn’t run. I noticed that all the after-market fans either come with a 3 pin power connector or 4 pin Molex. My PSU only has (2) Molex power connectors and one Molex is powering my hard drive and the other Molex is powering my DVD drive. How do I free up one extra Molex power connector to run my rear fan when I do get a new fan with a Molex connector? Or where can I get a rear fan with a 4 pin connector that will fit into my MOBO header? If I keep running my system without the rear case fan will it damage something?

Lastly, on another system I had a BSOD where my OS (Windows XP) needed to be wiped clean so I installed Windows 7 (32 bit architecture), SATA hard drive. Would I be able to swap-out that hard drive and install it on my “low-budget” build if it is a 64-bit architecture and put the Linux/Ubuntu OS with the 64 bit architecture into that 32 bit configuration? Thanks in advance.
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ide to sata adapters are cheap and nasty, they also have jumpers on them which have to set correctly..even when they work they arent reliable..if you want to use your old ide drives then get an add in pci card ..lok for ide controller/raid card, but you dont have to set up a raid..they will need drivers to work..

the board you have has 2x pwm fan headers ..white for cpu and red for chasis fan..the extra pin/cable allows the bios/software to adjust the speed of said fans,according to temperatue...you can connect a 3 pin plug but it wil then run at full speed..they can only be plugged in one way..should notice the 3pin plug has 2 tabs, making a " [ " shape..this allows the plug to slide over/into the plastic upright on the 4 pin header on the mobo, aligning it correctly...if its plugged in properly and its not spinning then either the fan is dead or its turned off in the bios...looking at your mobo,with cpu at the top you should plug the 3 pin all the way to the right,nothes facing up

most aftermarket fans come with a 3pin plug and a molex adapter..they are usually pass thru..ie they have 3 plugs..3pin to the fan and 2 molex's(one male and one female)..female plugs into molex from p/supply and the male into your drive..you can also get a molex splitter..any pc shop should have these.

if you take your sata from the other pc and try to plug it into your new one , that o/s wont boot..all its devices (mobo,cpu , ram etc) will be different and it wont recognise the new ones...you will have to wipe the drive and reinstall windows..you can run 32 bit windows on a 64 bit capable cpu,but it will only recognise 4gb of ram ... so if your going to upgrade to 8gb of ram later its best to install 64 bit os...also if you really need all the setiings/data from the old win32 sata then you can do a settings transfer(start/programs/accesories/system tools..windows easy transfer) after you install windows on the new pc, by hooking up a network cable between the 2 pc's (crossover cable) or through a router..

hope this helps and good luck
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samsung evo samsung evo coolgate 240 xspc rx360 
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raystorm cpu & gpu block ek d5 pump & top win 7 corsair gs 700 
Case
corsair 750d 
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3970k rampage iv extreme gainward gtx 970 gskill ripjaw ddr3 2400 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
sandisk extreme alphacool white monsta 360 coolgate 480  xspc raystrm 670 block 
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EK 970 gpu block d5 pump win7 SilverStone Strider Plus 1000W ST1000-P Modular... 
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Phanteks Enthoo Primo Ultimate Chassis White  
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2600k msi z77 mpower big bang gtx 570 kingston hyperx beast ddr3 
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kingston ssd now v300 xspc rastorm cpu block ek fc570 se gpu block xspc rx240 rad 
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Thanks for the advice and recommendation. I was out for a while due to surgery but I'm continuing to upgrade. For starters I installed Windows 7 Professional (64 bit), $99 from Discount Mountain software. I installed a rear 80 mm PWM fan. It works but it seems like it is hardly doing anything so I bought a new Raidmax super hurricane case ($39 Newegg), it has 3-120 mm case fans (front, rear, and side). The fans use molex connectors so I have a Coolmax PSU ($25) on order from Geeks.com. The PSU comes with 6 molex connectors & 4 SATA connectors so I don't anticipate any problems getting the fans hooked up. The only thing about the Raidmax case that I was a little disappointed was that it doesn't have the wire routing behind the motherboard for a clean organized look. But it'll work for me and I know that I get what I pay for (lol). Next on my wish list will be a Sandy bridge core i5 CPU (lower end) & 8 GB RAM. I just found out from using Intel's mother board & CPU compatibility tool that my MOBO is not compatible with the new Ivy bridge. Oh well, I'll just chalk this one up as a learning experience.
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