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post #11 of 24
You got to be more specific. What is in the 70's C, and measured from where?

Maximum GPU temperature for the 550 Ti is 100 C

Maximum CPU temperature for a 2600K measured at Tcase is 72.6 (source directly from Intel --> http://ark.intel.com/products/52214/Intel-Core-i7-2600K-Processor-%288M-Cache-up-to-3_80-GHz%29 ) Maximum CPU for a 2600K temperature measured at TjMax is 98 C.

Whether you measuring CPU from TjMax or Tcase makes a big difference, whether your looking at CPU or GPU temp also makes a big difference.
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temp reading was from Coretemp an app PC magazine testers use for benchmarking .However I believe it only runs the cores not the CPU itself . The GPU's r fine , no overheating at all . I have some saved Info I'm going to send along errors and screen shots I even have a video of this coretemp app which I want you to see .It shows volts , watts , frequencies and temps for all 4 cores and loads .I'm running it all right now on auto mode since I can't download any overclocking motherboard utilities , which is why (I'm assuming) there's fluctuations in CPU volts and watts . will send info attachment later ,tryiny to freeze up on me
post #13 of 24
The words "fluctuating voltage" scares me. I may be getting off topic, but here is a quick electronics 101. This may or may not help you.

Power in watts = voltage * current. CPU's are designed to run at a constant voltage, so the the current (and power) fluctuates to keep the voltage constant. There is some exceptions to the "keep the voltage constant" rule. Turbo boost, or pushing your CPU really hard might cause it to increase the voltage from 0.988 to as high as 1.320v (in extreme situations) for improved stability.

If your voltage is dropping below 0.998 volts OR the voltage is rapidly fluctuating (voltage fluctuations should be slow, and predictably increase/decrease with load) this would imply the your motherboard might be defective, or alteast we need to take a closer look at it.

If your voltage fluctuates too low your CPU will try to go into some type of power saving mode which might crash it or lock it up because your motherboard did it improperly/unintentionally.

Also, double check me, but Coretemp measures TJmax so unless you saw 90+ C, there was no damage from temperatures. Sounds like your temps are fine. 70+ C is unusually hot for that CPU (hot enough where i might be concerned,...if your PC did not have more pressing issues.)
Edited by crimsontears809739 - 4/16/12 at 9:18am
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winerrors.pdf 180k .pdf file updatefailed.pdf 151k .pdf file don't know if this will help or further confuse ,also I don't think this site will accept a video of what I'm talking about can I send it to you as a reply from my Email you just sent?
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wouldn't load here sent it via ur last post to my email address . it loaded there as a video , where u can plainly see what I'm talking about .
post #16 of 24
You can sent me a hyperlink to a video here. If want to email it, you can sent it to stephen.g.dumbeck@gmail.com

.NET updates failing arn't a concernt, i can help you fix this. It seems completely un-related to your computer locking up.

Have you run a processor stability test like Prime95? It will show if your processor is making calculation errors.
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Okay, tried running prime95 on auto and pc shut itself down after about 45 seconds . Tried it again thru the sign up and it ran for about 45 seconds and hit Tj max on second core and I shut it down ,coretemp was screaming critical ! Is there a specific setting I should try with prime95(?) , It gives 3 options .
post #18 of 24
Finally, after a billion questions, 2 weeks, and half a dozen tests later I think we know the problem....or least we are really close.

Do you have any reason to believe that your CPU heatsink might be seated imporperly? Give the heatsink a good push with you hand, can you wiggle it around on the processor? If so then it's too loose.

If your heatsink it too tight, it will warp the motherboard and make a bad thermnal connection. If it is too lose, it will also make a bad thermal connection. Wrong amount of paste, same thing.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cooling-air-pressure-heatsink,3058-7.html <-- Here is a article covering all these topics. (jump to the next pages of the article for info on thermal paste, ect) Do a common sense check on your heatsink/thermal paste.

If everything on your heatsink checks out, you might have a bad processor. I have fixed a billion PC's, and this is the first time i have genuniely felt someone might have a bad processor.

Sometimes a processor will have a partial hardware failure, where it will still work...but be unstable and run excessively hot. Never seen a CPU do that, once had a GPU do that once and had a FPGA do the same thing on a embedded system. It's incredibly rare. I would look at your heatsink before we jump to any wild conclusions,
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post #19 of 24
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The heat sink is a typical thumbscrew type , factory issue ; no wiggling and no post loose . However , remember I told you my wife's IT guy seated it ? Well he's not to familiar with high end stuff so there may be a paste issue , maybe too much or not enough , I'll have to check out . I hope it's as simple as that . I should get a good silver paste from the Altex down the street first . I'll let you all how it comes out . In the mean time , as I asked before is there a specific setting on prime95 I should have used ? Rather than going automatic ? Also is there any type of motherboard test that will check it ? Oh did you get the video of the fluctuations ?
post #20 of 24
Good thermal paste might give you another 3 degrees C and won't matter, unless the current thermal paste is defective or broke down (I.E. dried out).

For the type of testing we are doing, "automatic" on Prime 95 does a fine job.

For video fluctuations you can use one of the "Fuzzy (insert name here)" programs. ATi tool has the fuzzy cube (it works on Nvidia cards). MSI afterburner has the fuzzy text (Works on any card, not just MSI cards). Furmark has the Fuzzy donut. These should all be in the OCN downloads section. I would start with the MSI afterburner tools.
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