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Originally Posted by Mkilbride View Post

What a crock.
Consoles won't look that good and you know it. Devs are lazy.

This comment incensed me.

You have no idea how many late nights and weekends we have to work in order to get a game finished on time.

What annoys you about games has very little to do with Devs. It's the suits that make the decisions and it's the suits that can force a game out to the shelves with bugs and bad design choices. All it takes is one terrible game director to essentially 'ruin' 3 year's worth of work by several hundred people.

Creating a game is a delicate balance of politics.
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post #52 of 330
Multi-platform games make up the majority of AAA titles. While they can often look good, or even very good (see Battlefield 3) on PC, they still HAVE to run on consoles, thus limiting their graphics.

New consoles will be good for PC gaming, as PC games will see a similar boost in graphics, because multi-platform games will see an increase. And this will cause people to buy new hardware - and when people buy new hardware, it's more feasible for developers to make better looking games. So trust me guys, new consoles will only help PC gaming. thumb.gif

EDIT: I guess I should say PC gaming graphics, as many people would say that graphics don't really matter in the end
Edited by BobTheChainsaw - 3/30/12 at 6:43pm
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I've never got the hang of consoles. I share a PS3 with my cousin, and even with the same TV/monitor, my old 9400 GT and a spare HD 5450 on a C2D machine (my HTPC) looked way better than on the PS3. And don't get me started when i compared those to my GTS 450...
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Make Crysis happen on consoles, then I'll listen.

They did and it was released in the XBLA and PSN for about 20 bucks a few months back!
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no tessellation so its already fail
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This comment incensed me.
You have no idea how many late nights and weekends we have to work in order to get a game finished on time.
What annoys you about games has very little to do with Devs. It's the suits that make the decisions and it's the suits that can force a game out to the shelves with bugs and bad design choices. All it takes is one terrible game director to essentially 'ruin' 3 year's worth of work by several hundred people.
Creating a game is a delicate balance of politics.

This man speaks the truth. Publishers and investors ruin games, not developers.

OT: Honestly, are console people still trying to pretend their machine can out perform a PC? Really?

Why don't we just accept that consoles are an inferior product however they are released at a price point that makes them incredibly attractive to the mass audience. Mix that with the ease of co-operative/multiplayter "couch" gaming and that is why consoles are successful.

I don't really think any serious gamer can say consoles are better. The input methods (controller) are inferior and less accurate (hence aim assist in most shooters) compared to a M+K setup and the hardware is, naturally, considerably less powerful and lacks any pathways to upgrade the system.

The benefits of consoles are the price point (Although Sony would be the exception with the stupid prices they release PS's at on launch) and the fact that they are an optimised system without the bloatware and other crap that windows has that is irrelevant to gamers but uses system resources. They also have a unified online platform which i think is the main draw card for people to play games online on console. I think anyone that has used a PC for online gameplay can agree that the PC system in superior (server browsers, mod support etc.) however most games these days just port over matchmaking and remove LAN and mod support from games. Then the other issue is that for someone new to the server browser system, it can be quite daunting and that is why I think the masses prefer matchmaking, its easier for them. Since they don't have to think. And we all know how little the hordes of zombies out there like to think. Hence why justin beiber sells millions of albums whilst genuine talent will go unrecognized, but lets not get into that.

All in all, PC's are, and always will be, superior. But consoles are more attractive for people new to gaming and people trying to do it on a budget. PC gaming would be cheap if games were actually developed for the platform but unfortunately, when these new consoles come out, we will just see more bloated, crappy console ports again. And then the console fanboi's will start screaming about how much better their console is than PC again. Until the next Crysis equivalent comes along and shows what the PC can actually do.

/rant tongue.gif
Edited by Vengeance47 - 3/30/12 at 9:41pm
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Thanks, but I'm not lazy. I worked 60 hours the past three weeks.
Also, consoles will look that good.
So you worked 20 hours a week?

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A little showcase of what ray-tracing can do for modern games...not the best example, but a recent one.

Four Knight's Ferry servers and that's all we get?
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Multi-platform games make up the majority of AAA titles. While they can often look good, or even very good (see Battlefield 3) on PC, they still HAVE to run on consoles, thus limiting their graphics.
New consoles will be good for PC gaming, as PC games will see a similar boost in graphics, because multi-platform games will see an increase. And this will cause people to buy new hardware - and when people buy new hardware, it's more feasible for developers to make better looking games. So trust me guys, new consoles will only help PC gaming. thumb.gif
EDIT: I guess I should say PC gaming graphics, as many people would say that graphics don't really matter in the end

Just because Console gets a boost in graphics doesn't mean PC will bump up with graphics, developers could still give the same graphic ports as they do now with no change to PC only more better graphics to match what the PC has already.
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This thread is evidence that PC gamers are douchebags.
If you don't believe that the next gen consoles will influence PC graphics, then you are clueless.

This

Consoles are Corporate greed is holding back PC visuals, on cross platform games anyway.

I fix that for you good sir.

I don't have an issue gaming on either platform, but the truth of the matter is that the sudden influx of people who got into console gaming this gen made the big publishers see big ol' $$$ signs... so meh...
Edited by Psyren - 3/31/12 at 1:05am
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