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Win. Curious as to when we're going to see these in e-books.
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There are allll kind of uses for these. These could save a lot of trees, reusable flier's, ect.
    
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There are allll kind of uses for these. These could save a lot of trees, reusable flier's, ect.

Less paper = more trees = a greener, healthier planet. thumb.gif
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There are allll kind of uses for these. These could save a lot of trees, reusable flier's, ect.
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Less paper = more trees = a greener, healthier planet. thumb.gif

Until you realize that people don't recycle. I'd much rather a sheet of biodegradable paper find its way into a landfill than a bunch of plastics and electronics.

Besides, who's going to hand out $200 fliers?


NOPE! These will remain in ebooks and similar specialized devices where they have already been present for the last 10 years, for a long time to come. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE ebooks and if everyone adopted them instead of burning through paper with normal books. it would be wonderful, but it's not happening any time soon on a massive scale.
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I've owned several e-ink devices. Not even one is the slightest bit damaged even after lugging them around with me everywhere I've gone for over 3 years in an unpadded bag. They've been dropped a few times, sat on once or twice, and are still in better shape than any of my paper back books or college text books that are carried din the same bag.
If durability is really a major concern with current tech, I have to seriously question what people are doing to their devices. Using them as toilet paper and expecting them to be retrieved from the water treatment plant unscathed perhaps?
Now, if it's also somehow cheaper OR has all it's benefits without costing more, GREAT! I suspect they will charge a huge premium on this over traditional e-ink however, making it totally pointless.


You seem to have rather missed my point, Its new tech of course when first implemented it will be more expensive and even possibly worse than the current gen but over time it will improve the prices will come down and it will become the new standard.

Its thinner lighter and tougher thats a pretty damn good trifactor for a mobile device, and in time it will be cheaper too. Dont just lookat what it is now which is interesting but not revolutionary look at what it will be in the future,The way you talk is like the people who looked at TFT screens and said man they are smaller more expensive and have bad image quality compared to CRT why would anyone ever want those.
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Now that's pretty cool.
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Looks brilliant! Would be good to see one in person smile.gif

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Mst likely it will be cheaper. Think about it. Raw materials for these are cheaper. Worst case they will be the same price.

I can see them making an actual e-ink book where you can turn the pages and load any book on it. That would be awesome, I still prefer paper because I can't get over not turning pages and I like how my bookshelves look.

Regardless, its progress, why are you guys so critical?
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You seem to have rather missed my point, Its new tech of course when first implemented it will be more expensive and even possibly worse than the current gen but over time it will improve the prices will come down and it will become the new standard.
Its thinner lighter and tougher thats a pretty damn good trifactor for a mobile device, and in time it will be cheaper too. Dont just lookat what it is now which is interesting but not revolutionary look at what it will be in the future,The way you talk is like the people who looked at TFT screens and said man they are smaller more expensive and have bad image quality compared to CRT why would anyone ever want those.

That's a bit of an invalid statement.

Just because something is newer does not necessarily mean it will ever be cheaper in the future. I certainly do not see solid-state-drives becoming cheaper in the foreseeable future compared to hard drives, for instance. Sometimes, to create a superior product, you must use a more expensive fabrication process, more expensive components, will require too much upfront investment for a producer to switch their current fabrication process, or any combo of those factors!

Now, in your scenario, TFT screens STILL produce lower quality and speed of images than good CRTs made 10 years ago. That hasn't changed one bit. The reason people adopted TFT is not because it is functionally superior, but specifically because they are actually cheaper to produce (after initial markup for "enthusiast hardware" status wore off), physically took less space/weighed less, didn't burn out your retina, were easier to drive via superior digital interfaces, completely invalidated the need for screensavers, and at the end of the day provided the general uninformed user a lifestyle upgrade without realizing they got a functional downgrade.

None of that is true in this case. There are no evident downsides to this product other than price which can only be assumed to be more expensive (if it were actually cheaper, that would have been listed as one of it's "revolutionary" traits), and no real benefits which translate into the REAL world.

Remember, there is no practical use in todays world for e-ink screens outside of dedicated ebook readers. Their ONLY redeeming qualities are their ability to store a static image without power, and their improved paper-and-ink-like readability in bright settings.

They are not going to end up in phones or laptops or monitors or anything else that requires a refresh time under 2 seconds, or a color display, or high resolution or self-lighting - they simply lack those abilities. They are not going to replace paper in public places or in mass distribution due to their cost. That leaves them only viable as a paper replacement for small scale static data presentation in private use.

In that one and only viable scenario for these displays, increased durability is not a significant improvement (current and even last-gen e-ink displays are just as durable if not more so than those found in any other mobile device, couple that with the fact that ebook reader's aren't exactly things careless kids tend to carry around and you see my point quite quickly), nor is flexibility (please correct me if I'm wrong, but you cant roll a battery, processor, SD card, and circuit boards). Thickness? OK that could be slightly useful but then you remember that current ebook readers are already quite thin and shaving off 1mm of that thickness is not going to justify significantly higher costs.

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Mst likely it will be cheaper. Think about it. Raw materials for these are cheaper. Worst case they will be the same price.
I can see them making an actual e-ink book where you can turn the pages and load any book on it. That would be awesome, I still prefer paper because I can't get over not turning pages and I like how my bookshelves look.
Regardless, its progress, why are you guys so critical?

Because the price of a single display wasn't already cost prohibitive enough, and people who have penchant for smashing their valuables with construction equipment didn't find hard encased readers fragile enough, you now want them to put 800 of these displays with no protective covering whatsoever into a single device with countless moving parts... mmk then.

It's not that I'm being overly critical, I'm just being realistic. There's progress, and then there's people who look at a tiny side-grade in fabrication processes and suddenly think the world is changing.
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So basically, we will have thinner, lighter, and more durable eBook readers?

Cool! thumb.gif

Wonder if this will make them cheaper too?
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