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Hi guys,

when i play those games (and i play only those games), i have problems with frames per second.

I had previously a GeForce 8800 GTS, and then now a Gigabyte GeForce GTX 560 TI OC.

So i bought that new video card, plus 2 gb 800DDR2 ram Corsair.

Starcraft II :
- with preconfigured 'low' graphics, its about 50 FPS, comes at 10-20 when a lot of units.
- with preconfigured 'ultra' graphics, its about 25 fps, comes at 10-20 when a lot of units.
I have made a lot of different settings.
It seems to drop more importantly when i change a setting based on CPU.

And with the previous video card, i had only a very few improvement in FPS.

Tried to changed to change resolution (from 1920*1080 to 1024*768) : no change (25 FPS stays at 25, 50 stays at 50).

GPU-Z tells me i have a GPU load of about 10-25% in game (40% in cutscenes)
Task manager tells me i have a CPU load of 50-90% in game.


League of Legends :
That's the game i play the most right now.

- almost the same case that SC2.
Whatever the resolution (1024*768 or 1680*1050) or the settings, i stay at 50FPS@spawn/no mobs, 22-30 in lane, 10-25 when team fight.
At 1920*1080, it gets worse, FPS drops by 5 at least.

GPU-Z tells me i have a GPU load of about 11-15% in game
Task manager tells me i have a CPU load of 45-85% in game.



I tried GameBooster ; no change.
I tried to lurk in your forums, then setting lolclient.exe and airlauncher priority at 'low', tried to remove lolclient airlauncher after launched leagueoflegend.exe, i only got a few improvement.

I tried then to read your forums, AMD CPU section because it seems to be the problem, and asked something in a thread, no answer yet.

Before i start to try to change bios settings and finally mess up with my computer, i decided topost here once again, hoping to hear the wisdom and the right solution.

I barely have the wallet to buy the (most powerfull who fit my mother board) CPU that could end my problems (Phenom II x4 965 BE + new BIOS ???), but someone has may be a cheaper solution.


What do i want ?
I want to play the games smoothly at least 50 FPS, whatever the number of units on screen.

That's my configuration :

Name AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+
Codename Brisbane
Specification AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+
Package Socket AM2 (940)

Mainboard Model M2N-SLI DELUXE
ASUS M2N-SLI DELUXE ACPI BIOS Revision 1102
Name NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti
Windows Version Microsoft Windows 7 (6.1) Ultimate Edition 64-bit Service Pack 1 (Build 7601)
DirectX Version 11.0

Honestly i've been fighting that for the last 2 weeks, i'm quite exhausted (disgusted) now, i would really appreciate help.

Thank you.

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post #2 of 19
I could be wrong but i think you're bottlenecking
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yea, i'm pretty sure your bottlenecking on your cpu if its slowing down on the more cpu side of things.

maybe take a pic of you running the game with the task manager on processes tab and msi afterburner showing gpu usage as well?

that should tell you right there
    
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SC2 loves fast core speeds, if you can get an overclock on your CPU then you will see better FPS.
If your seriously bothered and have the cash then upgrade your CPU and MOBO, 2500k will do so well with SC2.
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and 2gb of ram is what you have, or 2gb plus what you used to have? if 2gb, thats where some of it may be coming from also. Starcraft 2 wise, the 560ti can handle a melee game in 3d at 50+ on high, maybe ultra. i run about medium/high in 2d on most custom maps, and only run into fps issues on HUGE battles, but everyone does. SC2 has an option to set each graphic setting differently, and has pop ups to tell you what is affected by gpu, and what is by cpu. i would suggest lowering some of the cpu ones and see if that helps.
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Yeah your cpu is totally bottlenecking your system pretty good especially if you are running stock on the cpu. As the A64 platform is a decent amount slower then The Core 2 series cpus and those cpus are a decent bottleneck when it comes to cpu intensive games.
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It seems to drop more importantly when i change a setting based on CPU

And you saying this just is quite obvious and when you stated with alot of units fps drops which means your cpu dealing with the Ai can handle doing that and feed the gpu with what it needs to keep kicking at a decent frame rate.
 
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Whats your power supply? Since you already have a decent GPU you should probably just spend the money for a new CPU/MB. You can probably put together a rig with what you have now for around $200 that won't bottleneck your GPU.
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League of Legends uses CPU Shadows, try and turn all the settings to max and the Shadows to off, see if the FPS is good. Then turn the Shadows to max and if the issue happens again its a CPU bottleneck.
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1st thanks for your replies
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yea, i'm pretty sure your bottlenecking on your cpu if its slowing down on the more cpu side of things.
maybe take a pic of you running the game with the task manager on processes tab and msi afterburner showing gpu usage as well?
that should tell you right there

I guess thats the CPU.
i tried 3D mark 11 and results were ugly on CPU related tests (1-2 FPS)

i can provide GPU and CPU screens when playing, the annoying thing is that that the CPU never (ever) top 100% load average although it seems to be the bottleneck.
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SC2 loves fast core speeds, if you can get an overclock on your CPU then you will see better FPS.
If your seriously bothered and have the cash then upgrade your CPU and MOBO, 2500k will do so well with SC2.

I'm trying overclocking right now, currently at step 3, i had some issues with the first 2 steps (blue screens instead of orthos errors, lowering HT Multiplier doesn't improves something = still crashes)

i don't have the wallet for that(2500 k) and i don't want to re install windows7 and all my softwares (i am wrong about that ?)
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and 2gb of ram is what you have, or 2gb plus what you used to have? if 2gb, thats where some of it may be coming from also. Starcraft 2 wise, the 560ti can handle a melee game in 3d at 50+ on high, maybe ultra. i run about medium/high in 2d on most custom maps, and only run into fps issues on HUGE battles, but everyone does. SC2 has an option to set each graphic setting differently, and has pop ups to tell you what is affected by gpu, and what is by cpu. i would suggest lowering some of the cpu ones and see if that helps.

i have currently 4GB (2*1 + 2)
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Yeah your cpu is totally bottlenecking your system pretty good especially if you are running stock on the cpu. As the A64 platform is a decent amount slower then The Core 2 series cpus and those cpus are a decent bottleneck when it comes to cpu intensive games.

may be an option.

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Originally Posted by gotskil View Post

Whats your power supply? Since you already have a decent GPU you should probably just spend the money for a new CPU/MB. You can probably put together a rig with what you have now for around $200 that won't bottleneck your GPU.

As i said, i'm afraid of that because i have always re installed my OS and my softwares after a new MOBO/CPU.
Does the Phenom II X4 465 can do the trick ? Or may be a lower one that could a sure thing for my current motherboard (and still do the trick) ?
If my overclocking goes wrong, i'm focused on that solution, i am right or wrong.
I could spend 120 or 150 euros, but no more now.
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League of Legends uses CPU Shadows, try and turn all the settings to max and the Shadows to off, see if the FPS is good. Then turn the Shadows to max and if the issue happens again its a CPU bottleneck.

I have already tried that, and i didn't noticed any difference (from no shadows to best shadows), visual or FPS related (may be 1-3 more).

thanks in advance.
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Are you guys positive it's a CPU bottleneck? My brother's rig has a e3400 (with a 8800 gts 320 mb) and it can run LoL at max settings @ 110 average FPS @ 1440 x 900.
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