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If you are into WoW Bulldozer is just about the last chip you want. As has already been stated in gaming your not going to get that much improvement over a Phenom.

I know the AMD fans hate to hear it, I'm an AMD fan myself but right now there is just no reason to go that way unless you really need it for some sort of specialized workload.

I do disagree with Mister on one thing though. I think the H80 compares pretty well to high end air and it will do way better with spike temps then any air cooler. Throw some Ap-15s on it and it will be whisper quiet as well.

The biggest upgrade you would see right now is putting something like a 7850 in and figuring out the rest later. Unless power consumption truly is what you are worried about that 7770 really isn't going to outdo your 5770 by any noticable amount.
    
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This thread is worthless without a budget.
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your argument is valid, but sadly an air cooler will not touch my case, too bulky and i enjoy ascetics in my case and take pride in a clean build.
i am short for money at the current point, but i still feel comfortable that 2 7770s (with testing from friends that use them) will do better than a 6850 or better, i am looking to upgrade my cpu
for multiple reason, more threads is nice when rendering, as i do more video editing than gaming most of the time, and when i game, the graphics are not cranked, most of the time on low, its just my personal preference, also taking advantage of the crosshair V formula i know 2 7770s not only look nicer, they tap into what other motherboards dont have when it comes to running a single card over a xfire setup. and when i get more comfortable overclocking in the future (gpus) ill have a nice setup on hand. i do mild overclocks with MSi afterburner, but im still new to the GPU OC scene. also with nicer cards such as the 7850, or even 6850 i know its more power consumption, and my electric bill is harsh especially this time of the year, i have a nice PSU a thermaltake black widow 850 (wich i will be swapping for a nice corsair one by Christmas) i have to use what i get.

as for overheating in my case, its not happening, im using a stock amd cheap-o heat sink on my phenom II @ 3.4 and no liquid cooling and only the stock fans in the 600t and its as nice as can be in there, so i enjoy a quieter performance for that.
post #14 of 29
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and to answer questions, my budget can be anything i want it to be, but the more i want to spend, the more it will cost, i will not be using intel/Nvidia,

and at this point im looking to get as much for as little, so a 7770 is much less expensive than a 7850 or even a 7970, i would love one, but 2 cards in my rig will run better and consume less power.

i will be spending roughly 5-600 dollars on wednesday
post #15 of 29
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If you are into WoW Bulldozer is just about the last chip you want. As has already been stated in gaming your not going to get that much improvement over a Phenom.
I know the AMD fans hate to hear it, I'm an AMD fan myself but right now there is just no reason to go that way unless you really need it for some sort of specialized workload.
I do disagree with Mister on one thing though. I think the H80 compares pretty well to high end air and it will do way better with spike temps then any air cooler. Throw some Ap-15s on it and it will be whisper quiet as well.
The biggest upgrade you would see right now is putting something like a 7850 in and figuring out the rest later. Unless power consumption truly is what you are worried about that 7770 really isn't going to outdo your 5770 by any noticable amount.

Even with bulldozer i get over 100 fps in wow, it doesn't really matter for that game.
Agree on video card though..

Also in i have always preferred a single card over over sli/xfire it's just too much of a hassle if you can afford it just get 1 good card. Not all of the time, but sometimes dual cards aren't supported, or will have software issues. Much less likely with a single card.
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and to answer questions, my budget can be anything i want it to be, but the more i want to spend, the more it will cost, i will not be using intel/Nvidia,
and at this point im looking to get as much for as little, so a 7770 is much less expensive than a 7850 or even a 7970, i would love one, but 2 cards in my rig will run better and consume less power.
i will be spending roughly 5-600 dollars on wednesday

2 cards will consume near twice the electricity than a single high end card, plus the headache associated with sli/crossfire.
bulldozer is so much power hungry, i suggest just getting a phenom ii x6 processor than bulldozer, much powerful, less hotter, and consumes less electricity.
well that's just my advise, it's your money, your decision.
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and to answer questions, my budget can be anything i want it to be, but the more i want to spend, the more it will cost, i will not be using intel/Nvidia,
and at this point im looking to get as much for as little, so a 7770 is much less expensive than a 7850 or even a 7970, i would love one, but 2 cards in my rig will run better and consume less power.
i will be spending roughly 5-600 dollars on wednesday
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your argument is valid, but sadly an air cooler will not touch my case, too bulky and i enjoy ascetics in my case and take pride in a clean build.
i am short for money at the current point, but i still feel comfortable that 2 7770s (with testing from friends that use them) will do better than a 6850 or better, i am looking to upgrade my cpu
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as for overheating in my case, its not happening, im using a stock amd cheap-o heat sink on my phenom II @ 3.4 and no liquid cooling and only the stock fans in the 600t and its as nice as can be in there, so i enjoy a quieter performance for that.

Well now I can answer your question.

1045t processor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819106012
7770's in crossfire http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129231
Gelid fans http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=100006648&isNodeId=1&Description=gelid&x=0&y=0
Steelseries Siberia > 5h v2 IMO http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826249036
H80 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181016&Tpk=h80

A lot of money to be only about 20-30% better than your current PC.

2 7770's will perform better than a 7850, but they will NOT do so at less power consumption. 250W (load) compared to 578W (load). So you are going to need to factor in your monthly power bill and decide whether the prettiness of two cards in your PC is worth the $50 difference of a 7870 which outperforms the 7770's in crossfire, at half the power consumption.
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Well now I can answer your question.
1045t processor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819106012
7770's in crossfire http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129231
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H80 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181016&Tpk=h80
A lot of money to be only about 20-30% better than your current PC.
2 7770's will perform better than a 7850, but they will NOT do so at less power consumption. 250W (load) compared to 578W (load). So you are going to need to factor in your monthly power bill and decide whether the prettiness of two cards in your PC is worth the $50 difference of a 7870 which outperforms the 7770's in crossfire, at half the power consumption.

^this with the 960T instead of the 1045T.
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This dude has literally shot down everything anyone else has told him about his build.

How about this then. You are wasting your money on parts that are barely sidegrade over your current setup. You are literallly wasting 500 dollars. Listen to the people in here and try to take some advice.
    
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If I were you, I would just spend $300 bucks on a graphics card and $140 on a CPU and call it a day. 2 GPUs may give better performance, but if your power bill is really eating you up 2 GPUs is NOT the way to go.
After checking out Newegg, two 7770s are $300 bucks. I found a 6950 for $290~ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150549 - You will get more performance from two video cards, but you will be drawing two times the power. and from what you said I don't think you care to much about graphics: you just want something that works.
And for a CPU seeing your doing more video editing than gaming a 6 core CPU would make sense, But the bulldozer really isnt the way to go.
I would grab either this ; http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819106012
or this; http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103923

And in reality your just throwing money out for a small increase in performance. If I were you I would just keep the CPU you have and grab the 6950 for $280 and call it good.
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