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lol Warmonger unless microsoft super glues the user manual to every system, people are not going to read it or have easy access to it.

Every library or corporate firms don't attach the user manual next to the PC -.-

it's ignorant to think that.
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Originally Posted by Warmonger View Post

I know I cant wait for it "you click here and done your at your email within metro!"

You know if you put it that way I might as well tell them to use a tablet instead. Lets see how should I answer the question how do I go back? Well What you do sir is press this button on the keyboard, then you look for the internet icon. Then you click that to go to internet explorer. "But what if I want to close it?" Well you drag down from the top of the screen like so then you find your app and then you close it"."how about shutting down the pc?" "well you move your mouse to the left or press this key on the keyboard then you move your mouse to the right click power then click shutdown." It might be simple for you but for someone whos about 70 and retired I think thats quite a bit to relearn, considering theyve been taught the win 7 interface alot more.
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OEM machines come with boat loads of documentation that covers every corner of the machine, including Windows. Once users know how to get to and from the Metro interface the rest is a piece of cake to figure out. And that matter is as simple as clicking where the start menu use to be, or pressing the Windows key. The first place people revert to when they can't figure something out themselves is the owners manual.

Like I said lets be honest here, when have you ever read through a manual for an OS? Actually since youve mentioned reading through OEM manuals I think Ill read through the one that came with my laptop no its not dated I bought it fairly recently.
Lets see
Section 1-2
finding help and support
create recovery disc
Getting antivirus
Finding a new isp
installing sofware
updating software
shutting down computer

Section 3
troubleshooting

Section 4
Appendix.

Nope nope nothing here that shows me how to use windows if I am completely clueless.
Edited by Onex - 3/31/12 at 6:34pm
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Then you aren't buying OEM machines. Every machine comes with a owners manual, which provides discrete instructions on setting up your new machine and Windows. In which case Windows tends to be more self explanatory then anything.

Absolutely wrong.

I have three fairly recent laptops (Acer 5741G, Lenovo Y570, and an ASUS EeePC) that I did not build myself, and not one of them came with anything resembling a manual. Two had quick start guides, which had almost no information on the OS, and one had some poster thing that simply displayed the location of the ports and buttons.
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^ Looks quite a bit like my Dell Latitude Manual.

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As I have said in many threads. I will not be buying windows 8 unless I find a tablet that runs it better than android. I will stay with windows 7 until there is a compelling and logical reason to move to windows 8/9
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lol Warmonger unless microsoft super glues the user manual to every system, people are not going to read it or have easy access to it.
Every library or corporate firms don't attach the user manual next to the PC -.-
it's ignorant to think that.
Your ignorant to make that up. No one in this thread said Microsoft distributed official documentation with OEM machines. OEM manufactures provide their own documentation.
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You know if you put it that way I might as well tell them to use a tablet instead.
Like I said lets be honest here, when have you ever read through a manual for an OS? Actually since youve mentioned reading through OEM manuals I think Ill read through the one that came with my laptop no its not dated I bought it fairly recently.
Lets see
Section 1-2
finding help and support
create recovery disc
Getting antivirus
Finding a new isp
installing sofware
updating software
shutting down computer
Section 3
troubleshooting
Section 4
Appendix.
Nope nope nothing here that shows me how to use windows if I am completely clueless.

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Doesn't matter who distributes it.. doesn't change the fact that people are not going to read it or have easy access to it.
Every library or corporate firms don't attach the user manual next to the PC -.-
it's ignorant to think that.
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Your ignorant to make that up. No one in this thread said Microsoft distributed official documentation with OEM machines. OEM manufactures provide their own documentation.
Click Me.

You are using a single example and saying it must apply to every OEM machine. This is absurd.

One example to the contrary proves your assertion void, and half the people on this forum can provide at least one example to the contrary.
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Doesn't matter who distributes it.. doesn't change the fact that people are not going to read it or have easy access to it.
Every library or corporate firms don't attach the user manual next to the PC -.-
it's ignorant to think that.

More then 98% of them do. If you can find a online manual for the machine, its most likely printed and distributed with every machine of that model. If not it comes with a card that provides you with a direct link on the internet to find the owners manual. To even make the claim of the owners manual is not providing help with operating a new machine is ignorant. Really if you cant find the start menu where its been for over 16 years now, then you shouldn't be using a computer. Stick to getting your mail and news the old fashion way, the mailbox and television. I can't wait for the Release Canidate, us power users are loving it.
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You are using a single example and saying it must apply to every OEM machine. This is absurd.
One example to the contrary proves your assertion void, and half the people on this forum can provide at least one example to the contrary.

Yes? No? Maybe?

Point proven.
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Yes? No? Maybe?
Point proven.

My point? Yes, you just proven it. Did you even read any of those?

The Lenovo "manual" doesn't even say what OS the system comes with.

That Acer link is a service guide, and that's not included with the system. Doesn't say anything about the OS either.

The ASUS "manual" does at least mention Windows, but my EeePC 900 did not come with Windows XP at all, it came with Linux.

So again, your assertion that all OEM systems come with relevant documentation regarding OS features is completely incorrect.
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