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rolleyes.gif Speak for yourself.
I thought you were done? Why are you still here?

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For the record I should mention I'm one of the people I mentioned that are too lazy to use Linux over windows. Though I would if I didn't need adobe apps or games. I'll probably end up just dealing with windows if an upgrade to 8 becomes mandatory. I'm not going to fight the man by being part of the low percentage of Linux users.
I really don't see people loving the lack of start button though. I don't believe windows phone OS has a majority share so I suspect most people will expect windows to look like all the other windows not like their phone.

I generally use linux on my netbook, I think you should give it a try its a lot of fun especially on pcs that have low specs. As for the starbutton I think its more of the interface that pops out when you press it. I enjoy it when its like a little colum on the side to access programs. Not like a full blown desktop that pops out on you.
Edited by Onex - 4/1/12 at 12:40pm
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Windows 8 will not be generally liked by the public beacuse of drastic changes from Microsoft. Why? Because of a bloated GUI known as metro, and the removal of the start button which has been in use since windows 95. And the general feel of the os seems to be closeer to those of a tablet then for a desktop.
/opinion /truth

This, quite a lot of "average" users are going to absolutely hate Windows 8 if they don't put the start button back. They will get confused and then install/get someone to install Windows 7 on their new computers when manufacturers start shipping computers with Windows 8 installed.
    
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I generally use linux on my netbook, I think you should give it a try its a lot of fun especially on pcs that have low specs. As for the starbutton I think its more of the interface that pops out when you press it. I enjoy it when its like a little colum on the side to access programs. Not like a full blown desktop that pops out on you.

I used Linux on my desktop for a couple years, but after a while it was too much of a hassle dual booting and going back and forth between OS all the time to game or use adobe stuff (which I use a lot).

I did continue to use it on my netbook up until I got my Asus Transformer (which I guess is still sort of like using Linux). Like I said it is perfectly fine if all you do is browse the internet and type documents, no need to use windows there
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I have removed a few posts. Guys please keep it on topic and leave the unnecessary comments in your head please. smile.gif
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People are not upgrading their computers as fast as they use to. We have come to a point in computer horse power that's "good enough" for most people tasks. Most people who use computers use them to watch netflix, youtube, send an email, message their friends, and browse facebook. Once in a while, write a document or maybe make a powerpoint presentation for class. You don't need the latest version of Windows to do any of that, let alone, you don't need the latest Intel Core i7 or AMD eight core either.

For the enthusiast, there is also a similar effect. As long as the current version of Windows runs your game with great performance and supports the latest version of DX, there isn't a need to upgrade. The enthusiast market also showed Microsoft that they are not willing to ditch a perfectly fine version of Windows for a horrible release like Vista. Look at how many people today are still rocking Windows XP, let alone how long it did take the enthusiast market to leave XP for 7. Most people finally went to 7 simply because they were building a whole new computer and needed more than 4gb ram support.

People don't just jump onto the new version of Windows anymore like they did back in the 90's and early 2000's. Windows XP did a lot of damage to Microsoft because it was good enough. With it being out so long it showed people they didn't need the latest and greatest. PC sells are low simply because there isn't a need to upgrade. Cell phone sells are high because like computers during the 90's, they are still evolving into what the consumer wants. Sooner or later they too will hit a dry spell once they become "good enough."

What Microsoft is doing with Windows 8 is trying to join the mobile/tablet bandwagon to get people to upgrade and ditch their old computers. They make their profit from selling software, and since most people don't get a new version of Windows till they upgrade their PC, they need to do something to get them to. They see tablets as the next big hit, and not only do they want a piece of it, they need a piece of it. If not, they wont make the massive amounts of profit they use to and be forced to become the next IBM where they make most of their money from support. They see tablets as the future of computing not so much because tablets are "better" but because they see it as the next big fad that can rank in the cash for them. They are hoping people will be willing to ditch their current computers and upgrade since Windows 8 is completely different than their current machine. If they walked into their local computer store and see the latest computers and next version of Windows looking awfully similar to their current one, there going to instantly say to themselves "why bother, it looks like it can do everything my current one can." If they see something that looks different and appeals to them greatly (hence the tablet look) they might go ahead and buy it to replace their current computer, and this is what Microsoft is betting on. Kernel updates and latest Direct X doesn't sell, flashy, shinny bling does.

The problem for Microsoft is whether or not Windows 8 will be to much of a radical change. Desktops have their place, same with tablets and smart phones. Are tablets a big enough fad to ditch traditional desktops? So far, it doesn't appear that way (and I hope it stays that way), but time will tell I guess.
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The only issue I've had with Linux as of late was GRUB2, and that was actually how lovely Windows was to overwrite my boot record. It was a PITA to get GRUB working again but after I had to do it a few times (my own error, first I installed an old version of Ubuntu, didn't realise 11 was out, then I installed 32bit instead of 64bit..lol) I got it down to a T.

Otherwise on my legacy system I recently spoke of it was extremely simple, everything worked, including a Belkin Wireless G card that Windows absolutely MUST have the drivers for before will work.

I'm afraid this Raven guy is just attacking others who don't share his opinion and that's just out of line.
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Oh well, linux is better anyway smile.gif i use windows 8 consummer perview in my windows vm, but since that vm is just for games/netflix i really could care less if it dos based.

I hope this pushes more people towards linux
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Oh well, linux is better anyway smile.gif i use windows 8 consummer perview in my windows vm, but since that vm is just for games/netflix i really could care less if it dos based.
I hope this pushes more people towards linux

You can run games on linux (windows) VM's? Using virtual box on windows, all the hardware is emulated, so d3d things don't work.
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Did you guys read the article over at Tom's Hardware ? Don't know if it's a joke since today is April Fools', but notice that almost all the comments (I presume almost all of them negative towards Metro) have been given negative feedback so they would be hidden. Could Microsoft be behind this ?

And I'm saying this because in previous articles the trend was exactly the opposite, with negative feedback towards Metro being given 20 (the maximum allowed) positive feedback.
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