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post #1091 of 1734
Hi,

I'm having the same problem with my H100 to some degree - it's not as loud as it seems for others - but it's definitely something I can constantly hear from outside the case.

I saw the "fix" about reducing the fan speed with a fan controller - while I am thinking about getting a Scythe Kaze Master Pro, I am not sure if I feel safe connecting the pump here - if the fan controller fails (not sure how likely, but I'm thinking such a controller is a relatively cheap piece of hardware), then my cpu won't get any cooling..

I thought if I another solution could be to reduce the cpu fan speed in bios? I have a P9X79 deluxe and I can see there is an option to set the cpu fan profile to manual and in there it seems I can set the CPU fan max cycle from 0% to 100% (but not lower than a minimum set rpm setting set elsewhere).

Do you think this could be a solution and safe to do?
post #1092 of 1734
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No.

1. The setting adjusts the duty cycle of the PWM control signal on the CPU_FAN header. This is only for 4-pin PWM fans.
2. The H80 and H100 are powered directly from the PSU, thus bypassing the CPU_FAN control. The fan connector coming from your H100 is only the read-only pump RPM signal.
3. You need a voltage control to change the speed of the pump, not PWM, but in a way where the speed is set once and then not variated during operation. This is why a hardware solution should be used, not a software adjustment, as this will kick in at POST (if set in BIOS) or in OS if done with 3rd party software). Changing the speed of the pump dynamically is potentially hazardous, as was show a couple of pages back - the unit died because of this.
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post #1093 of 1734
Ah okay too bad frown.gif

Do you think I'm worrying too much about connecting it to a fan controller? Not sure how reliable these things are in general as I've never owned one before.

I saw you did some little voltage drop thingies - is that something you sell and do you still make them? smile.gif
post #1094 of 1734
Well, I'm an idiot. I figured my motherboard would provide voltage control for the H100 when hooked up to it via an adapter. Well it doesn't. What a waste of money.

Time to call Corsair up and order an advanced RMA and hope for the best.
post #1095 of 1734
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It is possible, but special care should be taken as noted above.
Not all fan headers allow software fan control, those that do are usually marked as chassis fans, those that don't are usually PWR or SYS headers, but it all depends on the make and model of the motherboard.
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I have a ASRock P67 Extreme 4.

I tried all the fan headers and none of them would let me tune the pump down via Speedfan or BIOS itself.
post #1097 of 1734
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Strange, those two 3-pin headers above first PCI-E slot should work, maybe the adapter wasn't good or the SpeedFan wasn't set up properly (it's not that trivial)?
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Originally Posted by wlw wl View Post

Strange, those two 3-pin headers above first PCI-E slot should work, maybe the adapter wasn't good or the SpeedFan wasn't set up properly (it's not that trivial)?

Thanks for responding. You inspired me to try one last thing.

I tried CPU Fan (4pin) didn't work. Tried SYS Fan (3pin) didnt even give it power. Tried CHAS Fan 1 (4pin), didn't work. EVEN TRIED CHAS FAN 2 (3pin) AND IT DIDN'T WORK. I figured the Chas Fan 3 was the same as Fan 2 header... right next to each other, both 3 pins...

This is all through the BIOS. So I thought I was done for. No hope. I have to RMA. sad-smiley-002.gif Actually I was more pissed than sad. This grinding noise was so loud it was giving me headaches. mad.gif Sounds like a dying hard drive.


But then... I said, what the heck, it's worth a shot.

So I got up one last time, and hopelessly plugged the cooler into the CHAS Fan 3 header (3pin). Set in the BIOS level 8 (1-9, 9 being max).

Silence.

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The pump is now working at ~1875 rpm. Silent. Pure bliss.
(Speedfan is reporting Level 8 as 81% speed (Level 9 = 100%). I could set it higher on speed fan but i would rather have it controlled directly by the BIOS.)

Before the pump was at ~2200 rpm. Grinding. Headache.

After the change, temps didn't change. Still cooling my CPU like a freezer. 5-10c above ambient.

Thank you!


All I used was this fan adapter. Plugged the H100 molex into this molex, and the 3pin into the Chas Fan 3 header. Set the speed to Manual - Level 8 in my ASRock P67 Extreme 4 BIOS.

The RPM sensor wire on the H100 can be plugged in any where, or no where.


Edited by kennyparker1337 - 8/17/12 at 11:08am
post #1099 of 1734
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Great!

The safest and most comfortable way would be to use a hardware solution, because now any software can set that to 100%, which wouldn't hurt, but it can set it to 0%, which would.

In terms of diode adapters, you'd need two 1N400x diodes in series to achieve the voltage (and speed) you currently have - I can say with 95% confidence that if it's running at 2200 RPM, one diode would not be enough.
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My new H100 finally came in after RMA. It is a 1227 and is absolutely silent.
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