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Originally Posted by Stefy View Post

So 1% of the units are affected? Is the sound very loud as in you will know for sure that it is the actual cooler?

Whatever percentage you see from Corsair is the percentage of people who actually knew they had a problem.

Many people will go on using the unit with the noise. Thinking it is completely normal and just deal with it.

I know this because I did for several months.


The first unit I got sounded like someone tapping a pen against glass or metal constantly. Returned.

Second one sounded like a very low buzz noise. Fans on high would mask it, but I wanted near silent low speed on the fans and the noise was pretty audible over the fans.

Fixed the second one after several months with a fan adapter and the noise being gone is very noticeable. Much more quieter.

I also have an Antec Khuler 620 on my GPU and it ran quiet right out of the box, first time.
post #1192 of 1734
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Originally Posted by kennyparker1337 View Post

Whatever percentage you see from Corsair is the percentage of people who actually knew they had a problem.
Many people will go on using the unit with the noise. Thinking it is completely normal and just deal with it.
I know this because I did for several months.
The first unit I got sounded like someone tapping a pen against glass or metal constantly. Returned.
Second one sounded like a very low buzz noise. Fans on high would mask it, but I wanted near silent low speed on the fans and the noise was pretty audible over the fans.
Fixed the second one after several months with a fan adapter and the noise being gone is very noticeable. Much more quieter.
I also have an Antec Khuler 620 on my GPU and it ran quiet right out of the box, first time.

"Fixed the second one after several months with a fan adapter". What did you do exactly.
post #1193 of 1734
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How do you prevent dust in that case?
Do you use 240mm DECMi filters?

Went with two 120mm magnetic filters from Silverstone, lift right off to vacuum, they are awesome.

http://www.amazon.com/Silverstone-Filter-Magnet-Cooling-FF122/dp/B006RD0U54/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1345998041&sr=1-1&keywords=silverstone+magnetic+fan+filter

You get a more stable seating over the eight H100 mounts if you dremel the elevated tabs down smooth, then just the magnets hold them tight to the chassis.


I tried all 6 possible configurations with the H100.

Best was Push/Pull intake, second best which I stayed with is Pull Intake. The photo below is Push-Intake (showing the fan filters) it is slightly louder and impossible to clean the fans when they are juxtapositioned between the radiator and chassis.

IMG_0860.jpg

Pull-Intake is easiest to live with, 2nd best config thermally, and the quietest of all 6 configurations.

Also from my photo gallery, there was one try with the Corsair SP-120 fans Quiet Editions, they look really nice, but are a few steps down on the efficiency scale from the Noctuas, and they are NOT PWM fans.

Getting my 4 NF-F12s airbrushed RED and BLACK, a thin micro-coat of paint as to not disrupt the overall characteristics of the fans, but that’s pretty extreme, if you don’t mind the color, stick with them. If you are not too picky about temps, go with the Corsairs. Just notice they are an asymmetric design front to back, so you do not get the cool looking colored rings when you flip them over for a PULL config.
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post #1194 of 1734
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That's still weird as the temperature of a radiator should be directly related to air flow, regardless of ambient.
I found in my setup, with a 25C ambient, that neither intake or exhaust really produced better temps.
However, by upping the fan speed from low to high, I noticed a 10C drop in temps during stress tests. This is as exhaust.

It is related to airflow volume yes, yet a more determining factor is the temperature of the air moving into and thru your radiator.

I am only speaking about idle temps, since I do my work for hours a day at idle temps, that is more important in my situation, not stress tests. But I see your point and agree.

Also, the ambient temperature across a 20 foot room is unimportant. The temperature of the air flowing directly into your H100 from above is directly related to your radiator and CPU temps.
    
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Whatever percentage you see from Corsair is the percentage of people who actually knew they had a problem.
Many people will go on using the unit with the noise. Thinking it is completely normal and just deal with it.
I know this because I did for several months.
The first unit I got sounded like someone tapping a pen against glass or metal constantly. Returned.
Second one sounded like a very low buzz noise. Fans on high would mask it, but I wanted near silent low speed on the fans and the noise was pretty audible over the fans.
Fixed the second one after several months with a fan adapter and the noise being gone is very noticeable. Much more quieter.
I also have an Antec Khuler 620 on my GPU and it ran quiet right out of the box, first time.

"Fixed the second one after several months with a fan adapter". What did you do exactly.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1236923/corsair-h100-h80-h60-noise-grinding-pump-fix-official-corsair-response/1080_30#post_17960020
post #1196 of 1734
I have a H80 and there's a small amount of dust which I can't get rid off. How you do guys clean your rads? Also, dust filters? I've never even considered that. Does it affect cooling efficiency?
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post #1197 of 1734
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I have a H80 and there's a small amount of dust which I can't get rid off. How you do guys clean your rads? Also, dust filters? I've never even considered that. Does it affect cooling efficiency?

Filters reduce efficiency a little. Not much though. Maybe 1-2C?

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Filters reduce efficiency a little. Not much though. Maybe 1-2C?
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Went with two 120mm magnetic filters from Silverstone, lift right off to vacuum, they are awesome.
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You get a more stable seating over the eight H100 mounts if you dremel the elevated tabs down smooth, then just the magnets hold them tight to the chassis.
I tried all 6 possible configurations with the H100.
Best was Push/Pull intake, second best which I stayed with is Pull Intake. The photo below is Push-Intake (showing the fan filters) it is slightly louder and impossible to clean the fans when they are juxtapositioned between the radiator and chassis.
IMG_0860.jpg
Pull-Intake is easiest to live with, 2nd best config thermally, and the quietest of all 6 configurations.
Also from my photo gallery, there was one try with the Corsair SP-120 fans Quiet Editions, they look really nice, but are a few steps down on the efficiency scale from the Noctuas, and they are NOT PWM fans.
Getting my 4 NF-F12s airbrushed RED and BLACK, a thin micro-coat of paint as to not disrupt the overall characteristics of the fans, but that’s pretty extreme, if you don’t mind the color, stick with them. If you are not too picky about temps, go with the Corsairs. Just notice they are an asymmetric design front to back, so you do not get the cool looking colored rings when you flip them over for a PULL config.


So why didn't you stick with pull intake? If I understand correctly, pull intake is when the fans are connected below the radiator and pulling cold air into the case?
And which fan is exhaust? The back fan?

I also have the Noctua NF-12F and I don't care about the colour much. The case is under the table, it's not the I look at it like a piece of art.
I use Antec P280 so I can't do push/pull, there's not enough clearance.

How about these filter: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=9_26_576&products_id=15709

or a couple of these: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=9_26_576&products_id=12957 (cheaper).
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So why didn't you stick with pull intake? If I understand correctly, pull intake is when the fans are connected below the radiator and pulling cold air into the case?
And which fan is exhaust? The back fan?
I also have the Noctua NF-12F and I don't care about the colour much. The case is under the table, it's not the I look at it like a piece of art.
I use Antec P280 so I can't do push/pull, there's not enough clearance.
How about these filter: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=9_26_576&products_id=15709
or a couple of these: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=9_26_576&products_id=12957 (cheaper).

I did stick with Pull-Intake, thought I wrote that down above. "second best which I stayed with is Pull Intake."smile.gif

Yes the rear NF-F12 is a rear exhaust, the only exhaust. CM200mm front intake and H100 NF-F12(x2) top intake.

I cannot do Push/Pull with my chassis properly either, not with both banks of fans and a radiator inside the chassis, it hits the mobo heatsinks.

The way I tested Push/Pull was using the current Pull-Intake single bank of fans and adding the second bank on top of the 650D chassis, since it was not meant to be permanent, just postulating an improved thermal value. And I did get that value, back a few pages in this thread, I put up a screenshot, I got an average CPU temp of 22C average for all four cores. Single bank of fans I usually have 27C to 29C as an average posted that also.

Try Pull-Intake if you have not already, see if you don't see lower idle temps.

Think someone was talking earlier here about fan speeds correlating to CPU temps: If you pull a large volume of warm air thru a radiator very fast it’s not going to remove much heat just create a lot of noise, the temperature of the air rushing in, or deltaT is what removes the heat from the radiator, not so much the speed or volume of the air.

Sorry again wlw_wl, just have to say something when it seems it might help someone out. smile.gif
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