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3/31/12 at 7:46am
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Hello Overclock.net people, Im going to go to EEUU in december, and I want to now if a GTX 680 will bottleneck mi PC...

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3/31/12 at 7:49am
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See if you can find any X6's anywhere.
What kind of games will you be playing?
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3/31/12 at 7:55am
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Methinkso.
See if you can find any X6's anywhere.
What kind of games will you be playing?

Games like battlefield 3, COD MW3, Skyrim, Diablo III, and games like that... The resolution of mi monitor is 1920x1080p
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4/1/12 at 1:51am
Games like sky rim will most likely bottleneck. I just took out my phenom x6 overclocked to 4.2ghz amd dropped in a i7 2600k. The individual cores of the i7 2600k process more data and can be clocked much higher. It was the best decision i have made yet. Sky rim only uses a few cores as do several other older games and that benefits a i7 as the phenoms have more cores but if the game doesnt support several cores they dont do you any good.
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BF3 is very CPU-intensive.
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4/1/12 at 5:58pm
Are you saying will your cpu be too slow for a 680 or viceversah? Cause It sounds like you are saying will your gpu be too slow for your cpu.(amd cpu's arnt exactly fast compared to their intel counterparts in non threaded games)
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4/1/12 at 6:04pm
Your GTX 680 will be fine with that Phenom II X4. Sure, it'd do slightly better if you swapped out the Phenom with a Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge, but not as exaggerated as some people will make it out to be. What's your CPU-NB at?

Here's an investigation into CPU scaling (with a 7970, which is approximately the same as the GTX 680, perhaps slightly slower).
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-7970-cpu-scaling-performance-review/10

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BF3 is very CPU-intensive.
Not really. It's even less CPU intensive than it's predecessor, BFBC2.
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4/1/12 at 6:29pm
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Your GTX 680 will be fine with that Phenom II X4. Sure, it'd do slightly better if you swapped out the Phenom with a Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge, but not as exaggerated as some people will make it out to be. What's your CPU-NB at?
Here's an investigation into CPU scaling (with a 7970, which is approximately the same as the GTX 680, perhaps slightly slower).
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-7970-cpu-scaling-performance-review/10
Not really. It's even less CPU intensive than it's predecessor, BFBC2.

Oh please dude. CPU scaling WILL COUNT A LOT when dealing with powerful video cards. Im not saying amd cpus are bad or anything, they are more than fast enough for average users. But when it comes to gaming with powerful video cards, you need to have a cpu that can feed it enough information. I personally have an amd cpu which is seriously bottlenecking my card(usage in percentage is anywhere bettween 35%-70% unless im looking into a wall and then it becomes gpu dependent).

Please stop filling people with bs.

Now unless you are playing at some serious resolutions, no, your CPU will not bottleneck

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4/2/12 at 8:32am
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Oh please dude. CPU scaling WILL COUNT A LOT when dealing with powerful video cards. Im not saying amd cpus are bad or anything, they are more than fast enough for average users. But when it comes to gaming with powerful video cards, you need to have a cpu that can feed it enough information. I personally have an amd cpu which is seriously bottlenecking my card(usage in percentage is anywhere bettween 35%-70% unless im looking into a wall and then it becomes gpu dependent).
Please stop filling people with bs.
Now unless you are playing at some serious resolutions, no, your CPU will not bottleneck

And you ... please don't swear on the boards.

Also, your logic is entirely reversed.

The higher the resolution, the lower the CPU requirement/less likely you are to be BN'd.

Those graphs are at 1680 resolution, which is more likely to show a CPU BN than a higher resolution would. Reason being that the CPU requirements change very little as resolution increases, i.e. your CPU has pretty much all the exact same 'work to do', regardless of resolution.

However, at higher res, obviously the GPU has more work to do, which causes the FPS to go down, ergo, the CPU has to work LESS hard (in a given time slice) in order to keep up, reducing the CPU BN probability.

Similarly, staring at a wall should cause your FPS to go UP dramatically, and thus typically cause your system to become MORE CPU BN'd, not less. But that's a generalization, could be a few different things at play there wink.gif

Lastly, CoH and Warhead are two of the highest CPU-demand games out there, and these tests are at 1680 with 0xAA. It's like they went out of their way to CREATE a CPU BN there wink.gif

I certainly wouldn't prefer to run a 680 on a Phenom X4, but it's not like it's not going to allow for some really nice IQ settings, even if the FPS isn't ZOMG TEH BEST! with that processor.
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4/2/12 at 11:21am
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And you ... please don't swear on the boards.
Also, your logic is entirely reversed.
The higher the resolution, the lower the CPU requirement/less likely you are to be BN'd.
Those graphs are at 1680 resolution, which is more likely to show a CPU BN than a higher resolution would. Reason being that the CPU requirements change very little as resolution increases, i.e. your CPU has pretty much all the exact same 'work to do', regardless of resolution.
However, at higher res, obviously the GPU has more work to do, which causes the FPS to go down, ergo, the CPU has to work LESS hard (in a given time slice) in order to keep up, reducing the CPU BN probability.
Similarly, staring at a wall should cause your FPS to go UP dramatically, and thus typically cause your system to become MORE CPU BN'd, not less. But that's a generalization, could be a few different things at play there wink.gif
Lastly, CoH and Warhead are two of the highest CPU-demand games out there, and these tests are at 1680 with 0xAA. It's like they went out of their way to CREATE a CPU BN there wink.gif
I certainly wouldn't prefer to run a 680 on a Phenom X4, but it's not like it's not going to allow for some really nice IQ settings, even if the FPS isn't ZOMG TEH BEST! with that processor.
Sir, I think you yourself misunderstood me. It sounds like you thought i ment by srrious resolution exactly opposite. I ment that if you play at some serious resolution, as in high, then his phe ii WILL not be a bottleneck.

So most of your entire post compiles with my opinion and backs it up. Gg

Also, I perferr getting 100+ fps in games.
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