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Yes the the i5 with a single card is MORE than enough overclocked by far. It would start to show its age maybe if you had like 3 cards or a 3 huge resolution monitors but even then you would run out of gpu power before cpu probally.
post #32 of 39
Yes in my opinion. It may not be significant bottleneck, but the bottleneck is there. It depends on whether or not you want to spend extra money on getting a faster CPU.
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post #33 of 39
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I would say yes, there will be a bottleneck even if its a slight one but nothing to worry about since @ higher resolutions the CPU matters less. The only issue here is the fact that if the OP does decide on jumping ship he will have to buy a new mobo/CPU and most likely new ram. That's a big investment just for upgrading the GPU.

I know but as I said im in the same boat and it would be much better to buy a 580 and an i5 and new motherboard instead of going all out top dollar/pound for a 680 and not be able to use it. Say you are only getting 70 percent usage, well the 680 is about 30 percent better than a 580 so you may aswell just go with the 580 tongue.gif
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How the minimun fps when situtatuins turn to the cpu? How do they compare?

u mean microstutter? or frame drops?
no microstutter in games with the 570's, the 680 does not perform as smooth as the sli 570's but imo its because drivers havent matured yet. however, its not stuttery, theres maybe 2-5 fps drops here and there in big maps like caspian, gulf of oman, but it drops from 85 to 80, so not even noticeable. gpu graphs are almost flat, excluding loading screens and other variables like connection lag or such. cpu spikes are bigger, but they stay in the 50-80% range with all 4 cores being used in bf3, which is imho the most optimized game on my ssd besides p2
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I know but as I said im in the same boat and it would be much better to buy a 580 and an i5 and new motherboard instead of going all out top dollar/pound for a 680 and not be able to use it. Say you are only getting 70 percent usage, well the 680 is about 30 percent better than a 580 so you may aswell just go with the 580 tongue.gif

Depends on which route the OP wants to take, if i was on a budget I would go with a x6 1100T and OC it to about 4.3Ghz. If money is somewhat of an issue then maybe your suggestion and if money was NOT an issue def. a 2500k/new mobo/new ram and GTX 680 (asus of course tongue.gif)
    
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Why do people think this? No, simply no. Every source on the planet says the exact opposite.
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lol these are single player benchmarks. just try playing multi with a dual-core and see what happens.

to the OP, a phenom x4 will very much bottleneck a gtx 680. from personal experience, i only saw 70% GPU usage with a 6970, and only 40% with a 5970. you'd be lucky to see 25% usage with a 680.

basically it's impossible to get a steady 60+ FPS with a phenom x4. you pretty much need a 2500k, or a phenom x6
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I disagree with the above, i have personally tested a 7970 DC2T @ 1225/7000 paired with an ol x4 975 @ 4.3Ghz and the GPU usage fluctuated between 75 and 85 %. You are going to tell me that the 680 will only reach 25% usage on an OC'ed x4?

Edit :

the game played was BF3, we also tested the same GPU using a 1100T at 4.3Ghz and the outcome was the same for the most part with the exception of 64 player B2K maps where we saw the x6 pulling a few more frames than the x4. Other than that the x4 performed flawlessly..
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Sir, I think you yourself misunderstood me. It sounds like you thought i ment by srrious resolution exactly opposite. I ment that if you play at some serious resolution, as in high, then his phe ii WILL not be a bottleneck.
So most of your entire post compiles with my opinion and backs it up. Gg
Also, I perferr getting 100+ fps in games.

The only reason I 'misunderstood' you ... is because what you SAID ... is (apparently) the opposite of what you MEANT.

You said:
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Now unless you are playing at some serious resolutions, no, your CPU will not bottleneck

You see, the words 'unless' and 'if', in this context, are antonyms ... or 'opposites', if you prefer. Ergo, my 'misunderstanding' was actually your 'misspeaking' wink.gif

AFA this question goes, IT DEPENDS on what game/test you run and what graphics settings/resolution you run it at.

And I'm locking this before this turns into a flame war, esp. given that the OP hasn't revisited his thread in 2 days now.
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I disagree with the above, i have personally tested a 7970 DC2T @ 1225/7000 paired with an ol x4 975 @ 4.3Ghz and the GPU usage fluctuated between 75 and 85 %. You are going to tell me that the 680 will only reach 25% usage on an OC'ed x4?
Edit :
the game played was BF3, we also tested the same GPU using a 1100T at 4.3Ghz and the outcome was the same for the most part with the exception of 64 player B2K maps where we saw the x6 pulling a few more frames than the x4. Other than that the x4 performed flawlessly..

well yeah it's not hard to boost GPU usage by turning up the MSAA/resolution. i mean that no matter how much usage the GPU saw, FPS never stayed above 60FPS. I had my x4 at 4.2ghz and I couldn't get decent framerates, a clear bottleneck. Also run these tests on large 64-player maps
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