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How about "RIM doesn't collapse in a massive pile of rubble, instantly destroying tens of thousands of jobs across Canada?"

Have you seen how take-overs of canadian owned company's by international companies have played out? Caterpillar recently bought a company with the promise of keeping in canada with the jobs.. only to close it a year later while the workers were on strike. Poof... hundreds of jobs gone. Another one... Vale/Xstrata in Sudbury - a ton of jobs have disappeared from the mining sector because of that take over. The government already rejected a bid for Potash last year, will likely reject a Viterra bid and I highly suspect RIM will have to work out its issues.
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Have you seen how take-overs of canadian owned company's by international companies have played out? Caterpillar recently bought a company with the promise of keeping in canada with the jobs.. only to close it a year later while the workers were on strike. Poof... hundreds of jobs gone. Another one... Vale/Xstrata in Sudbury - a ton of jobs have disappeared from the mining sector because of that take over. The government already rejected a bid for Potash last year, will likely reject a Viterra bid and I highly suspect RIM will have to work out its issues.

Even though its unfortunate, I dont think RIM will survive long on its own.
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i think this would be a good idea. RIMs expertiese used along side Microsoft and Nokia's resources = win.
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I'm torn. I do want to see this, because RIM has floundered for the last few years.
But I don't because I happen to live in Waterloo, where RIM employs 9000 people, and owns about 21 buildings. It would be a devastating hit to the local economy.

Im with you. i live in St catharines and 2 of my family members work for rim. Its inevitable though, they shot themselves with the playbook and will never recover. RIP R.I.M and jim ball-silly
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RIM should have been one of the first out with a smartphone.

    
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Do not want, Make keypad phones again pls
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Nokia have been making some decent business phones over the last few years. The famous E71, followed by the E72 and now the E6. plus a few more i haven't mentioned.
So it makes sense they would buy RIM, get the patents, incorporate them into a new line of Nokia "E" series or there business series.

The new batch of business phones from Nokia if this happened could have the potential to be epic.
Nokia's skillz + M$ money + RIM's patents= beast business mobile.

All speculation and opinion, but i would like to see this happen and if RIM wants to stay around maybe it is the only way thumb.gif
    
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Have you seen how take-overs of canadian owned company's by international companies have played out? Caterpillar recently bought a company with the promise of keeping in canada with the jobs.. only to close it a year later while the workers were on strike. Poof... hundreds of jobs gone. Another one... Vale/Xstrata in Sudbury - a ton of jobs have disappeared from the mining sector because of that take over. The government already rejected a bid for Potash last year, will likely reject a Viterra bid and I highly suspect RIM will have to work out its issues.

AMD's acquisition of ATI worked out alright for Markham, ON.
    
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RIM will definitely need a buyer within the next year or so.

It's been a while since I've seen share prices plummet so much over just a few years. RIM was a huge company, but they lost focus on the corporate/enterprise market and tried to tackle the iPhone/Android consumers, which inevitably failed.

They need to stick to their core market that made them big.

Problem is, their phones are terrible and unreliable! Not to mention that all their email traffic goes through their central servers... seriously, ***?!
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RIM will definitely need a buyer within the next year or so.
It's been a while since I've seen share prices plummet so much over just a few years. RIM was a huge company, but they lost focus on the corporate/enterprise market and tried to tackle the iPhone/Android consumers, which inevitably failed.
They need to stick to their core market that made them big.
Problem is, their phones are terrible and unreliable! Not to mention that all their email traffic goes through their central servers... seriously, ***?!

They are still trying to do business like they did in 2006. As much as I hate to admit it, the iPhone really changed the smartphone market (although not in a patent-able way!)

Blackberry OS, Symbian and Windows Mobile 6.5 were completely killed by the new guys, iOS and Android. Microsoft realized this right away and started over from scratch with Windows Phone. RIM tried to update their outdated OS and failed, and Nokia tried to fight the war on two fronts, creating Maemo/Meego while updating Symbian, and it worked about as well as it did for the Germans.

Nokia saw the error of their ways and jumped on the Windows Mobile bandwagon, and I think RIM could benefit from the same strategy. They've been flirting with Android ever since they realized nobody would buy the Playbook without apps. You can run a good deal of Android apps on the Playbook, but they're basically emulated. I think they are going about it backwards. As much as I love the Playbook's UI (I think its the best tablet UI on the market) I think they'd be better off using Android as a base while adding their own software layer.


If on the off chance any RIM employees are watching, do this and you'll save your company:

  1. Stop developing Blackberry OS and QNX
  2. Reallocate those resources into a new Android division
  3. Port the QNX interface, BBM, and anything else you want over to Android.
  4. Take your experience catering to business professionals and use it to secure Android, contribute the code to AOSP.
  5. Make a new Blackberry Bold and Playbook running Android with that fantastic QNX multitasking and BBM included. Sell BBM on the Android Market for $5 or something.
  6. ???
  7. Profit

Because I can guarantee you that if Microsoft or Nokia buy you they'll do the same thing, only with a lot more layoffs and Windows Phone instead of Android.
    
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