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O deffinatly!! I idle at about 30c top out at about 40c I think if I were to lapp it and remove the ihs on the cpu it'd drop even more... Just the lapping will do about 5c. The big typhoon is crazy good my man... Even when it's stock! You can get a much better fan on it to alongside lapping it and you got yourself one heluva AIR cooler that rivals some water cooling sys.'s
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Oh, there is a member who hit 3.5GHz on the E6300, but that was on the more expensive Asus P5B Deluxe.

From a pure performance perspective, Intel holds the crown.

AMD indeed rules single core, but no reason to stick to single core while dual core is not much more expensive (although with limited budget, it's a logical choice)

I dare say that AMD does not even control the lower range of Dual Core, since the E6300 is only a little more than the X2 3800+, while the other parts to achieve good performance are not far off in price either
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Evere@dy
Go Amd!
That comment is pretty fanboyish and doesnt contribute to the thread in any way.



If youre looking for a single core, AMD would be your best bet. If youre going dual core, Intels Core 2 Duo processors are definetly the way to go. And if you have a big budget, Intel is releasing a quad Core CPU next month, so you may want to look into that.
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Originally Posted by Niko-Time
Check this threa: http://www.overclock.net/application...converter.html for comparisons between cpus.
That wouldnt be much of a deciding factor.
post #25 of 37
Agreed with Enterprise. Yeah, you know what's fastest, but there are other things.

Budget single core AMD (socket 939) - $398.98 (DFI Lanparty Ultra-D, Opteron 144, 2GB DDR 400 RAM)

Budget dual core AMD (socket 939) - $481.97 (DFI Lanparty Ultra-D, Opteron 165, 2GB DDR 400 RAM)

Budget Core 2 Duo - $511.98 (Gigabyte GA-965P-S3, E6300, 2GB DDR2 667 RAM)

I did pick the slightly more expensive Lanparty Ultra-D for the AMD rigs in order to be able to achieve good overclocks. The S3 overclocks really well for the Core 2 Duo also. Knock about $30 of the AMD rigs if you choose a cheaper, less capable, motherboard.

Since you'll need new RAM anyways (2x256MB won't cut it nowadays), the comparison including RAM is fair in my opinion.
    
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Yeah I only went with the sandy for price vs performance (and I got it on the cheap)

I dont have any brand loyaly lol. Intel, AMD, ATI, NVidia, Kingston, Corsair, Western digital, Maxtor, etc etc

Ive had them all, the deciding step is always performance vs price
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post #27 of 37
Brand loyalty IMO just limits you to all kinds of posibilities.
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I've been see-sawing back and forth also
    
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Yes the new Intel Core2 Duo is very nice but an expensive motherboard and equally expensive if not more DDR2 RAM for optimal performance..To be able to get impressive benchmarks.
Granted video encoding and applications such as FAH are able to run far more effectively on them.
As for gamming and other real world applications, it has been well reported that the gain is minimal. So the question should be "do you wish to outlay a large amount of $$$ for this" ?.

I am sure jrabb1920 could enlighten you on his experience in this regard.

And please before you Intel Core2 Duo converts flame on..This is not a AMD v Intel misguided fanboy rant but my own questioning of the effective performance gain for the purchase cost (assuming you start from scratch).

As applications change to suit these new cores (how long till they are widely implemented is another question ) the performance gains may increase.

In the current market place some very good systems can be configured for a fraction of the cost of the latest n greatest Intel product. Once pricing falls to reasonable levels I may then re evaluate this for my own self.

footnote: Build for today the best to suit your needs. Waiting for the next generation component release around the corner will see you waiting for eternity. Q: How can you future proof your purchase ? A: You can not.
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Originally Posted by xie67
Yes the new Intel Core2 Duo is very nice but an expensive motherboard and equally expensive if not more DDR2 RAM for optimal performance..To be able to get impressive benchmarks.
Granted video encoding and applications such as FAH are able to run far more effectively on them.
As for gamming and other real world applications, it has been well reported that the gain is minimal. So the question should be "do you wish to outlay a large amount of $$$ for this" ?.

I am sure jrabb1920 could enlighten you on his experience in this regard.

And please before you Intel Core2 Duo converts flame on..This is not a AMD v Intel misguided fanboy rant but my own questioning of the effective performance gain for the purchase cost (assuming you start from scratch).

As applications change to suit these new cores (how long till they are widely implemented is another question ) the performance gains may increase.

In the current market place some very good systems can be configured for a fraction of the cost of the latest n greatest Intel product. Once pricing falls to reasonable levels I may then re evaluate this for my own self.

footnote: Build for today the best to suit your needs. Waiting for the next generation component release around the corner will see you waiting for eternity. Q: How can you future proof your purchase ? A: You can not.
Well... I gave some examples above, and the Core 2 Duo kit is just about $30 over the AMD kit. Yes, to get excellent results with the Core 2 Duo, DDR2 800 RAM is recommended, but with DDR2 667 RAM, very good results are possible (3.22GHz, as I listed before). We're still talking sub-20sec 1MB SuperPi times! The 'Core 2 Duo' is too expensive argument does not really work. DDR 400 RAM already is over $200 for a 2GB kit (and that's just the basic stuff), and if you're honest, you should compare the cost of DDR2 800 with DDR 500 on the AMD 939 side. Also, the Gigabyte board I linked (the S3) is a good overclocker, same as the DS3, only without its solid capacitors.

I'd like to see an AMD build, or Intel build, for a 'fraction' of the cost of the $511 Core 2 Duo combination I listed
    
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