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Again, Bulldozer is not designed for CPU chips which makes it not comparable to other CPU chips. Read before you speak or maybe your just incapable of doing that too. Again, I could care less what you believe but I am telling you if you want to know what Bulldozer is supposed to be then research why AMD designed the damn thing, instead of just thinking that its to replace their previous gen cpus. If you havent already been told, AMD is getting out of the CPUs and going straight into APUs full force.
Its obvious that you are incapable of doing research for yourself and finding out what things are really meant for rather than what you think there meant for.

Bulldozer was designed to be a SERVER architecture FIRST, then it got scaled down to Desktop.

How many APU's will have 16 CORES?

http://blogs.amd.com/work/2010/11/09/server-highlights-from-financial-analyst-day/

It's time to go back to the basics and understand the Bulldozer architecture
http://www.overclockers.com/bulldozer-architecture-explained/
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Some else mentioned that I was talking as if no one knew what they were talking about but I never said any such thing. Just trying to share the knowledge whereas you guys try to start an argument.
Also, if you look at AMD's future plans you will see that there are no plans for CPUs after Vishera anymore. No more steamroller, no more excavator. All APUs for AMD because APUs are the future.

Since they can no longer compete with high end desktop chips, they shifted their focus. But trying to pass that off as their original plan is just ridiculous.

Again, you need to go back to the basics, and understand AMD's original goals.

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I don't care if it is first gen. If it is outperformed by the company's own last gen chips in multiple categories, it is a failure. AMD waisted months developing a monolithic quad in the P1 days and they still had their rears handed to them(even after the TLB was fixed). AMD could've bought time releasing a 32nm thuban and skipped straight to Vishera. I think it would've been better, but it's always easy being an arm-chair quarterback.
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Again, Bulldozer is not designed for CPU chips which makes it not comparable to other CPU chips. Read before you speak or maybe your just incapable of doing that too. Again, I could care less what you believe but I am telling you if you want to know what Bulldozer is supposed to be then research why AMD designed the damn thing, instead of just thinking that its to replace their previous gen cpus. If you havent already been told, AMD is getting out of the CPUs and going straight into APUs full force.

Sense this makes does not.

APU is marketing speak, amd is still making CPUs. Before you say the integrated GPUs make them something different, the same could be said of the integrated floating point units. Putting a nitrous system and a supercharger in a car makes it a faster car, not an airplane(or whatever other vehicle that is not a car).
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Intel has already won in the desktop market... and it will be a while before AMD will take the lead again, if they ever will.
we just have to hope that AMD can win the laptop market, so they have some money to build up on the desktop market.
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I followed Bulldozer's release for 3 months before I bought an 8120 for $190 to go into my 990fx board and I do not understand why the hatred towards it. Please do not throw benchmarks at me because I have seen them far too many times but when it comes down to it I really really like my computer. Granted I do not have a high end graphics (2x HD6850). I play Batman A.C. and BF3 on high presets and its smooth as butter. I hate constantly reading, "i dont know why anyone in their right mind would buy an FX cpu" thats just nonsense talk. It comes down to a matter of choice doesn't it? I do not sit here and run cinebench and 3dmark all day long and think it is just insane that these discussions go on and on in these forums constantly. I am not saying that my cpu is faster than an i5 or i7 but I am saying that it does everything that I want and why do you guys care so much? Here is a scenario for you... I have 2 pentium 4 computers that I acquired for free and they are pretty much useless for HD video for my wifes htpc and my kids htpc. So I installed vmware on them and my bulldozer rig. I gave the main rig 4 cores and split the remaining 4 cores up with the 2 pentium 4's over the network in my home via remote desktop. Allocated 4 gb of ram to each machine. Now here is the catch.... You ready??? I can be playing batman Arkham City on the bulldozer rig while my wife AND my children are both streaming HD movies all at the same time and we all have GREAT FPS. Basically my 8 core is acting as 3 separate computers. So I say again, It was a GREAT sub $200 investment. End of my nerd raged story and thanks for reading!
    
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Omg. I can just imagine what OCN would turn into if (if ever) PD mauls IB... AMD people are gonna start yelling SB/IB users...ah. Online warfare.


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Omg. I can just imagine what OCN would turn into if (if ever) PD mauls IB... AMD people are gonna start yelling SB/IB users...ah. Online warfare.


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I followed Bulldozer's release for 3 months before I bought an 8120 for $190 to go into my 990fx board and I do not understand why the hatred towards it. Please do not throw benchmarks at me because I have seen them far too many times but when it comes down to it I really really like my computer. Granted I do not have a high end graphics (2x HD6850). I play Batman A.C. and BF3 on high presets and its smooth as butter. I hate constantly reading, "i dont know why anyone in their right mind would buy an FX cpu" thats just nonsense talk. It comes down to a matter of choice doesn't it? I do not sit here and run cinebench and 3dmark all day long and think it is just insane that these discussions go on and on in these forums constantly. I am not saying that my cpu is faster than an i5 or i7 but I am saying that it does everything that I want and why do you guys care so much? Here is a scenario for you... I have 2 pentium 4 computers that I acquired for free and they are pretty much useless for HD video for my wifes htpc and my kids htpc. So I installed vmware on them and my bulldozer rig. I gave the main rig 4 cores and split the remaining 4 cores up with the 2 pentium 4's over the network in my home via remote desktop. Allocated 4 gb of ram to each machine. Now here is the catch.... You ready??? I can be playing batman Arkham City on the bulldozer rig while my wife AND my children are both streaming HD movies all at the same time and we all have GREAT FPS. Basically my 8 core is acting as 3 separate computers. So I say again, It was a GREAT sub $200 investment. End of my nerd raged story and thanks for reading!

Bulldozer is a great series of CPUs, Infact if I was to build another computer after I build my new intel one, I would go with bulldozer,
But the thing is, while being a great CPU, it does not compare well against intel CPUs, Although I do agree with your point about multi-tasking, it does that very well and is way ahead of Intel in that area of performance, And for people who like to stream HD movies and play video games at the same time, I say it is a great investment.
But when you compare bulldozer to sandy bridge in terms of single threaded apps, Intel takes the lead in that one, Although bulldozer does a great job it just doesn't compare and Intel takes the lead there, not to mention that today most applications don't really need more than 2-4 cores.

Point being is that I strongly agree that it does it's job and people don't need to have hate towards it, You also don't need a i5/i7 to do your everyday tasks.
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Hopefully these are new steppings.
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