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Poll Results: How long have you been using your current, main installation?

 
  • 24% (50)
    less then a month
  • 23% (47)
    less then six months
  • 14% (30)
    less then a year
  • 24% (49)
    less then three years
  • 13% (27)
    three years+
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post #1301 of 4043
Both are expensive tongue.gif

Good thing Linux isn't picky about the hardware you put it on biggrin.gif

Though this is good to know, thanks for the info! thumb.gif
Edited by CSCoder4ever - 4/5/13 at 7:10am
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I agree with Shrak. While my old Mac Pro was expensive (compared to a regular desktop computer) back when I got it, if you compared the price to any other OEM workstation (at that same point in time) the price difference wasn't all that bad.
post #1303 of 4043
Well yes both are expensive, they're both more gear towards the higher end of the OEM consumer market. tongue.gif

And even after prices and such, Apple has some of the single best customer support outside of businesses. Being I used to work in a freinds repair shop, I got to deal with just about every OEM out there and very few were decent. HP, Dell, Toshiba you're likely out of a computer for a month or more playing email, phone, package tag. Lenovo's is OK in the general consumer space, they really shine in the business area though. Last time I sent in my ToughBook to Panasonic it was gone for 7 weeks. My MacBooks though, anytime I have an issue ( that I can't fix, or if they're still under warranty (why do work when you don't have to and don't have time?) ), I take them right up to the Apple store and have them fix it, or if they can't and it's still under warranty, have them transfer my information on it to another similar working machine, usually never gone more than a week at a time 2 weeks at most. Have a question about it during the repair process? Call the store you brought it to, get a live person, who speaks fluent English and not some machine or guy over who knows where who's call name is "Peggy".



When it comes to prebuilt machines, Apple does a pretty good job. And though their business tactics may be up for question, they usually never hurt or even interfere with their customers at all which is a plus in my book tongue.gif
Edited by Shrak - 4/5/13 at 7:25am
post #1304 of 4043
That's true, Might consider an apple macbook at some point then... or a System76.

Just reinstalled windows 7 to a better edition yesterday... Hope I never have to do that again, at least not on my own machines ofc. lol
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post #1305 of 4043
My only complaint about Apple hardware wise (I have plenty about their accounting and business management as a finance and accounting student) is that it seems that they're really not much better (key word much; they are slightly) than the rest of the similarly or even cheaper products out there...it just seems that most people because of the brand image and the price tend to actually treat their Apple stuff better because it costs so much. I mean I had one friend who went through 4 fixes/replacements of his mac pro in one semester and only once was because he actually did something bad to it...IE dropped the damn thing about 3 inches. The rest of the time the stupid thing just over heated or one didn't work with any external monitor (which pissed him off to no end). And I've seen plenty of people who treated their low price Dells and such like crap and the moment they got Apple things they didn't act so carelessly. So really I think it's more than just the quality of the hardware. That said...I was rather impressed that I could just take a broken ipod in and have a brand new model of the same type for 90 (this was a 200 dollar one).

Outside of the "better" screens I just don't see myself jumping for an Apple anytime soon. And then there's that whole being worried about whether I'm going to get Linux working on it or not because I just hate OSX. I can't explain it but the whole OS really bugs me.


About the poll: I'm so torn between Red Hat and Novell. I just don't know enough though. Maybe the next poll we can ask about hardware makers impact on Linux?
     
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I've honestly never had an of my Macs overheat to the point where they needed to be fixed or replaced. And I've gone through my fair share, I keep them updated to their newest models. Which sparks another great thing, Apples resell value is great, every time I want to upgrade I sell my old model for slightly less than I paid retail for so I never lose out on too much tongue.gif

My Mac Pro actually got beat pretty badly on one of my moves, but took the side panel off, made sure everything was fully engaged and connected properly and it booted right up with no problems. Though, you really shouldn't be dropping any computers to be honest as most will react the same ( badly ).

Linux works on all models with relative ease ( more so than most other OEMs ), due to Apple using such limited hardware. There's a reason for that and it's so they can write better drivers and only have to focus on a specific set of hardware instead of worrying about everything under the sun. And OS X being unix-like and Unix Certified, a lot of their hardware already has decent if not great support. I only had one issue with one of my machines ages ago, and it was actually fixed after a short period.

And OS X is a great operating system once you get used to it. And can be used much like Linux, and has a good amount of programs you'd find on Linux ( I use Rxvt-Unicode and tmux on mine, much like I do while on my main Arch desktop ).


May be starting to sound like a fanboy but people really have so many woes about Apple's products without actually knowing much about them or using them. And I hate misinformation tongue.gif Unless you're looking at a small niche company like Sager who builds computers for a very specific purpose ( gaming ), then you're going to be all around priced very similar to the competitors.

I'll still take my own custom built computer over most any computer any day, but in the world of prebuilt, Apple is still king imo. Priced similar other OEMs while using quality aluminium instead of cheap plastic ( I can't not count how many times my Latitudes lid hinges have broken due to the plastic they're screwed into breaking, the thing is like 90% epoxy now and isn't going anywhere anymore ) and better screens.

( did I mention Apple has one of the best touchpads on any laptop/netbook I've used? )
Edited by Shrak - 4/5/13 at 10:05am
post #1307 of 4043
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I've honestly never had an of my Macs overheat to the point where they needed to be fixed or replaced.
I have; the Mac Cube was dogged with overheating problems.

It was gorgeous though (in fact I nearly bought one myself)
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I love me some redhat!!!! jus running winBLOWS 8 right now though
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Well yes both are expensive, they're both more gear towards the higher end of the OEM consumer market. tongue.gif

That's basically what I was saying, but I usually fail at putting what's in my mind out into the world.

I've never had any overheating problems with my Mac Pro. I've only ever had one problem with it and that was when the graphics card died a little over a year ago. Since it was the original Mac Pro they weren't selling the cards that came with it and the graphics card for the newer Mac Pros didn't officially support the original. I ended up reading on forum that the card would work and got it.
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@Shrak...do you have the "retina" models? If so how did you get the screen to work out? I'm curious because that's the big thing really that I wish others would get going with...sick of my 14incher with 1366x768.
     
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N450 1.8GHz AC and 1.66GHz batt ASUS proprietary for 1001P GMA3150 (can play bluray now!?) 1GB DDR2 
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160GB LGLHDLBDRE32X Bodhi Linux Fedora LXDE 
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Kubuntu SLAX 1280x600 + Dell 15inch Excellent! 
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6 cells=6-12hrs and a charger 1001P MU17 Black 
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