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Poll Results: How long have you been using your current, main installation?

 
  • 24% (50)
    less then a month
  • 23% (47)
    less then six months
  • 14% (30)
    less then a year
  • 24% (49)
    less then three years
  • 13% (27)
    three years+
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post #1661 of 4043
Are any of you guys on the debian-devel mailing list? There's been some interesting talk on systemd and possibly making xfce the default desktop recently.
What are your opinions? I personally think it's a great thing to swap to xfce, it's lighter, easier for windows and mac users to access and doesn't require systemd.

EDIT - there is also talk of packaging plasma-active and unity, which would be interesting
Edited by Noskcaj - 10/25/13 at 1:16pm
post #1662 of 4043
I don't like xfce but any move to a lighter desktop is not a bad move.


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post #1663 of 4043
I've heard about making GNOME depend on systemd. While I love systemd, I think it's a bad move. That would limit GNOME's adoption to only a subset of Linux distros. And would completely alienate any other Unix-like system.
post #1664 of 4043
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Originally Posted by xeekei View Post

I've heard about making GNOME depend on systemd. While I love systemd, I think it's a bad move. That would limit GNOME's adoption to only a subset of Linux distros. And would completely alienate any other Unix-like system.

Since GNOME is part of the GNU project, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't care about other Unix-like OSs.
post #1665 of 4043
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Originally Posted by Plan9 View Post

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Originally Posted by xeekei View Post

I've heard about making GNOME depend on systemd. While I love systemd, I think it's a bad move. That would limit GNOME's adoption to only a subset of Linux distros. And would completely alienate any other Unix-like system.

Since GNOME is part of the GNU project, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't care about other Unix-like OSs.

Are you sure? I think GNOME is a seperate project now.
post #1666 of 4043
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Originally Posted by xeekei View Post

Are you sure? I think GNOME is a seperate project now.

They might share devs, but they seem to be separate now.


And http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/ is gnu but not linux,
post #1667 of 4043
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And http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/ is gnu but not linux,
That's a terrible example. What you're talking about there is a project based on GNU userland, not a GNU project. You can do whatever you want with GNU userland just so long as you adhere to the terms of GPL, but that doesn't mean that anything forked from nor using GNU user land is equally part of the GNU project (if that were the case, then you'd be part of the GNU project as well tongue.gif)

Plus Linux (ie the kernel) isn't any more a part of GNU as FreeBSD is (which is why RMS keeps demanding we call it GNU/Linux rather than just GNU or Linux). So you're not proving anything by swapping out the kernels.

It should also be noted that these points are loosely covered in that very link you provided - and that's ignoring the fact that, as a package maintainer for a popular distro, you should already be aware of what the GNU project is. tongue.gif
Edited by Plan9 - 10/25/13 at 5:43pm
post #1668 of 4043
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Are you sure? I think GNOME is a seperate project now.
Possibly. There was talk about GNOME splitting after a spat between them and RMS. But that was a few years ago and I've not heard anything since to suggest they've followed through with their threats. But I could easily have just missed that news.

[edit]

GNOME is still listed on GNU's software page (http://www.gnu.org/software/) but there's no mention of GNU on GNOME's site. So who knows sleepsmiley02.gif
Edited by Plan9 - 10/25/13 at 5:35pm
post #1669 of 4043
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Possibly. There was talk about GNOME splitting after a spat between them and RMS. But that was a few years ago and I've not heard anything since to suggest they've followed through with their threats. But I could easily have just missed that news.

Unless the Gnome and GNU wiki's are out of date they still seem to be apart of each other tongue.gif
post #1670 of 4043
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Unless the Gnome and GNU wiki's are out of date they still seem to be apart of each other tongue.gif

I wouldn't take Wikipedia as gospel. However GNU's own website is a fairly good indicator (I posted a link but I think I added that edit as you were typing your reply so it's possibly you've missed it)
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