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Poll Results: How long have you been using your current, main installation?

 
  • 24% (50)
    less then a month
  • 23% (47)
    less then six months
  • 14% (30)
    less then a year
  • 24% (49)
    less then three years
  • 13% (27)
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I looked into slax and I think I will start there (if I don't like it I will work with porteus). I want to use open box instead of KDE though.

Side note: I have never been able to get a chromeos USB image to boot, anyone tried it?
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I looked into slax and I think I will start there (if I don't like it I will work with porteus). I want to use open box instead of KDE though.

Side note: I have never been able to get a chromeos USB image to boot, anyone tried it?

If you love OpenBox then cool, that's your preference. It can be installed on Porteus. There are 2 Porteus LiveCDs, one with Xfce and the other with KDE. Although I imagine the KDE 4 hangover will still be around 5 years from now (things like that just never die, it seems) if you're turning down KDE "because it is a resource monster" it is worth saying that

1) It isn't. KDE 4 came out as a non-production release and distros just ignored that warning in effort to be The First Kid On The Block! and basically ruined it for many who still complain to this day even though they haven't tried it since.

On my main box at system idle:

Xfce4.10 = avg cpu load 4% w/ ~450MB Ram usage

KDE4.8.5 = avg cpu load 6% w/ ~590MB Ram usage

Note: KDE is default. None of the "monsters" (strigi, nepomuk, akonadai, etc) are disabled

2) The miniscule extra resources on a newer KDE4 box are worth it to most people.

So choose what you like, but don't discount KDE because of lingering FUD.
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If you love OpenBox then cool, that's your preference. It can be installed on Porteus. There are 2 Porteus LiveCDs, one with Xfce and the other with KDE. Although I imagine the KDE 4 hangover will still be around 5 years from now (things like that just never die, it seems) if you're turning down KDE "because it is a resource monster" it is worth saying that

1) It isn't. KDE 4 came out as a non-production release and distros just ignored that warning in effort to be The First Kid On The Block! and basically ruined it for many who still complain to this day even though they haven't tried it since.

On my main box at system idle:

Xfce4.10 = avg cpu load 4% w/ ~450MB Ram usage

KDE4.8.5 = avg cpu load 6% w/ ~590MB Ram usage

Note: KDE is default. None of the "monsters" (strigi, nepomuk, akonadai, etc) are disabled

2) The miniscule extra resources on a newer KDE4 box are worth it to most people.

So choose what you like, but don't discount KDE because of lingering FUD.

I keep running into kde using different distros and tried it on a mini debian iso. Its the look; I just dont think its looks good at all. Then with lighter option out there why not use them. I have no kde hate its just not my cup of tea.

If I install a different wm, what is the best way to wipe everything from the old wm? I want the usb os to be as streamlined, light and fast as possible.
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I keep running into kde using different distros and tried it on a mini debian iso. Its the look; I just dont think its looks good at all.

DEs are largely a matter of taste so I hear you, though it seems to me that "look" is one of the things that is highly configurable on any DE, but especially KDE.
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Then with lighter option out there why not use them. I have no kde hate its just not my cup of tea.

Lighter doesn't necessarily mean more responsive when we are talking about the difference of 4% CPU vs/ 6% CPU and less than 100MB difference in ram, and that's as I mentioned, a fully loaded KDE set. Then there is what that investment in resources gets you. KDE is unquestionably the most feature-full DE on Linux, but different strokes, eh? .
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If I install a different wm, what is the best way to wipe everything from the old wm? I want the usb os to be as streamlined, light and fast as possible.

That will depend largely on the distro. If it is a Slackware based distro and especially if you use SlackBuilds, it is as simple as keeping all the packages in one directory and then launching "pkgtool" or using "removepkg". Since Slackware does not install any dependencies for you, it's all right there, so ALL will be removed.
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For this usb os build I think I will stick with openbox. But, could you recommend a distro build with kde I should try? This way I can play around with it more.
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Honestly, I find most of the features in KDE mostly unused by me personally.
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For this usb os build I think I will stick with openbox. But, could you recommend a distro build with kde I should try? This way I can play around with it more.

Since the idea here seems to be trying newer KDE, I'd recommend SolydK (which is sort of refined Mint with KDE) simply because the system is so easy it just gets out of the way allowing you to focus on trying KDE.
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Honestly, I find most of the features in KDE mostly unused by me personally.

Generally, I have to agree with that for my own use because many of KDE4's features are geared to people with many business contacts, and possibly of many sub headings, or heavy social networking. I have read many cases where people who never saw the value of KDE Activities tried messing with them for a week and became total converts. It is quite powerful.

For me there are just a few features that just make KDE essential. The expanse and power of KRunner is just amazing and totally essential to me in both play and work. I hated Nautilus and dislike Thunar and though I still have Krusader around, more and more I find myself relying on Dolphin. It's just an excellent nexus and very logically laid out.

I used "nexus" because that seems to have been the goal of the KDE4 team, total integration of the DE's features. I dearly loved KDE 3.5 and it was hard putting up with the initial transition to KDE4, especially since distro developers rushed to it before "it was ready for prime time". Now I can see the vision of the team and it makes sense. It is arguably the most seamless DE on Linux but it does take time to discover which of it's astonishing number of features can and will improve any individual users' workflow. The power is there though.
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Since the idea here seems to be trying newer KDE, I'd recommend SolydK (which is sort of refined Mint with KDE) simply because the system is so easy it just gets out of the way allowing you to focus on trying KDE.

Cool, downloading now; will try it out thumb.gif
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Hey guys do I need to reinstall a Linux distro if I'm changing the core components of my PC, CPU, motherboard and RAM? I'll be moving from an AMD based system to an Intel if it makes any difference.
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