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Poll Results: How long have you been using your current, main installation?

 
  • 24% (50)
    less then a month
  • 23% (47)
    less then six months
  • 14% (30)
    less then a year
  • 24% (49)
    less then three years
  • 13% (27)
    three years+
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post #471 of 4043
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Oh man when you install a few DEs and then forget all the little bits and pieces that they brought in with them it kind of helps doing the fresh install.

Another reason I like Arch and Pacman, it doesn't leave any bits behind unless you allow it (aside from local configs you make ) tongue.gif
post #472 of 4043
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If there's any benefit to re-installing Linux OS's rather than upgrading I'll definitely do it.

No real benefits, other than free'ing up hdd space from unused apps you installed and forgotten about.

The biggest problem is Debian and some of the distro's based on it like Ubuntu, is upgrading doesn't always go to plan. They seem to be getting better with it, but in the past there has been a lot of issues of the upgrade not working. I recently ( about 2? months ago installed Debian on my Laptop again ) updated to Wheezy and it failed to get a few things that it should have and didn't work right. Reinstalled and updated a second time, exactly the same process, and it worked perfectly. Also used to be a big issue in the older Ubuntu's back in the 6/7/8 days. May not happen to everyone or as often as it used to but it still happens.

I just always reccommend a clean install on new releases anyways, just seems cleaner to me. Another reason why I love rolling distro's, not having to worry about "upgrading".

debians documentation for upgrading is pretty good. sometimes there are problems upgrading, but its no different then say updating an arch system thats a couple months behind the ball. the main thing is to follow the release notes to the letter. also, wheezy isn't stable yet, so I don't think you can really blame them for that one, one of the requirments for release is its upgradability.
post #473 of 4043
Well I went from Ubuntu, to Arch, to LMDE, to Debian, and now Im trying Xubuntu for the last week. I still want to try out Chakra, and possibly Mageia. I must say I like Xubuntu a lot.

Anyone know if I can enable crossfire with two monitors enabled? It seems like it's Crossfire, or Multi-display, but not both? Please correct me if Im wrong.
    
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post #474 of 4043
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debians documentation for upgrading is pretty good. sometimes there are problems upgrading, but its no different then say updating an arch system thats a couple months behind the ball. the main thing is to follow the release notes to the letter. also, wheezy isn't stable yet, so I don't think you can really blame them for that one, one of the requirments for release is its upgradability.

i can honestly say I've never had that problem while updating arch after a few months of not updating. And I've had issues "upgrading" many Debian based distro's for many people that I've made it a habit to just reinstall. Always followed the upgrade guides to the T and they don't always go to plan.
post #475 of 4043
@Atlantida: If you go Chakra expect to have no theme control for any GTK based programs as Chakra (atleast when I used it in the Spring) is KDE only. The plus side is I think Chakra installed or ran GTK programs from RAMdisks (IIRC) so the trade off of having your GTK programs look like their WIN95 era is that they ran faster.

@Shrak: with how much damage I do I always reinstall/fresh install just so I don't compound my mistakes. biggrin.gif Honestly, with how fast it takes to get a buntu install up and running with everything I always found it took longer to do the upgrade thing.
     
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post #476 of 4043
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@Atlantida: If you go Chakra expect to have no theme control for any GTK based programs as Chakra (atleast when I used it in the Spring) is KDE only. The plus side is I think Chakra installed or ran GTK programs from RAMdisks (IIRC) so the trade off of having your GTK programs look like their WIN95 era is that they ran faster.
Wildly inaccurate.

Chakra is a KDE-based distro, true. But like all KDE-based distros (Kubuntu included), you can still install GTK themes. In fact as Chakra is based on Arch, you could even install GNOME if you really wanted to.

And this whole thing about GTK programs running from RAM disk is just silly. The vast majority of people who run Chakra run the live ISO - so ALL programs run from RAM disk. If you then choose to install Chakra, then all programs will run from HDD (or SSD if that's your set up). Chakra doesn't do any magical sandboxing.
post #477 of 4043
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debians documentation for upgrading is pretty good. sometimes there are problems upgrading, but its no different then say updating an arch system thats a couple months behind the ball. the main thing is to follow the release notes to the letter. also, wheezy isn't stable yet, so I don't think you can really blame them for that one, one of the requirments for release is its upgradability.

i can honestly say I've never had that problem while updating arch after a few months of not updating. And I've had issues "upgrading" many Debian based distro's for many people that I've made it a habit to just reinstall. Always followed the upgrade guides to the T and they don't always go to plan.
'Debian based'? Sure, i've had tons of problems upgrading ubuntu based distros, but I find debian stable works *almost* all of the time. I have had minor issues, but nothing that wasn't fixed with ease. Buntus are another thing. On buntu I would just reinstall.
post #478 of 4043
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Wildly inaccurate.
Chakra is a KDE-based distro, true. But like all KDE-based distros (Kubuntu included), you can still install GTK themes. In fact as Chakra is based on Arch, you could even install GNOME if you really wanted to.
And this whole thing about GTK programs running from RAM disk is just silly. The vast majority of people who run Chakra run the live ISO - so ALL programs run from RAM disk. If you then choose to install Chakra, then all programs will run from HDD (or SSD if that's your set up). Chakra doesn't do any magical sandboxing.

ok...weird though as I could have sworn that they were installed to different locations away from the rest of the libs and bin.
     
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post #479 of 4043
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ok...weird though as I could have sworn that they were installed to different locations away from the rest of the libs and bin.
Were you running the live iso?
post #480 of 4043
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Were you running the live iso?

Nope it was an actual install. I also recall having to use some GUI to install any GTK programs but hell maybe my impressions of the distro are effecting my memory. I liked it but it felt weird.
     
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