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Poll Results: How long have you been using your current, main installation?

 
  • 24% (50)
    less then a month
  • 23% (47)
    less then six months
  • 14% (30)
    less then a year
  • 24% (49)
    less then three years
  • 13% (27)
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post #631 of 4043
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Originally Posted by Cpt.Teacup View Post

I forgot to mention; Chrome puts each tab and plugin in their own processes so if one of them crashes it doesn't bring the whole browser down. thumb.gif
i thought plug ins shared processes due ro needing the same memory address. But i might be thinking of IE
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Sounded confusing, and they were noob questions but thank you. I've got Ubuntu on my computer and Linux mint on a cd. I'll look up some KDE screenshots. So far the only games I have for Ubuntu is the ones I got from the Humble Indie bundle (5 I think). Would this be a good example of a GUI in windows?
Explorer.exe or BetterExplorer?
it might seem confusing at first, but the concept is pretty simple so you'll wrap your head around it quickly enough. Basically it's just different themes or skins; except the changes are a little more than just background colour schemes, icon packs and desktop background pictures; the changes affect how you interact with your desktop as well. However the changes are still only skin deep (ie applications still run the same).

I think a better Windows comparison would be on Windows 8: you have the Metro interface and the classic desktop interface. Well Linux is the same, you can have different user interfaces on Linux;
  • interfaces with pretty effects,
  • interfaces which are really minimal so run better on low end hardware,
  • interfaces optimised for keyboard usage rather than mouse usage,
  • interfaces that are more optimised for touch screens,
  • interfaces that mimic Windows' classic desktop,
  • and so on
So it's really just a matter of finding something that looks pretty and/or you're most productive on. Or just install them all and switch between differenent interfaces depedning on your mood each time you log on.

However the big difference between Windows 8 and Linux is that on Linux, if an application runs on one interface, it will run on every single on. On Windows, Metro applications may not work on the classic desktop and visa versa. So on Linux, there's no danger of picking the "wrong" interface as everything will run on every interface.
post #632 of 4043
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Originally Posted by Plan9 View Post

i thought plug ins shared processes due ro needing the same memory address. But i might be thinking of IE

On Windows each one had it's own process. I haven't actually counted them in Linux but htop shows like a billion chrome processes so I assumed each plugin had it's own.
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post #633 of 4043
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On Windows each one had it's own process. I haven't actually counted them in Linux but htop shows like a billion chrome processes so I assumed each plugin had it's own.

There was some exceptions to process separation for browsers, I think Internet Explorer shares processes for plug ins (I might be wrong here), but Chrome definitely shares processes for child tabs (ie tabs that have been created from methods like target="_blank") as they need to share memory (eg Javascript needs to work between the two tabs, etc)
post #634 of 4043
I looked at Kubuntu's website, it looks nice. I hope to get some time to try it.

Plan9 your avatar is really... random... but funny.
post #635 of 4043
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I looked at Kubuntu's website, it looks nice. I hope to get some time to try it.
If you're already running Ubuntu then just install KDE from the software center. There's no need to do a manual OS reinstall as Kubuntu and Ubuntu are the same version of Linux except one comes with KDE as the default interface and the other comes with Unity. But as you can have more than one interface installed, you can just install KDE from software center if you want to try out Kubuntu's user interface.
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Plan9 your avatar is really... random... but funny.

cheers mate smile.gif
post #636 of 4043
@Dehatitated: Pretty much what Plan9 said. Though you can choose between going full blown with apt-get install kubuntu-desktop (IIRC) and something along the lines of kdebase (double check the package names). Personally though, when you finally decide (or if you ever do decide on a DE some of us don't) then you should just install whichever buntu comes with that DE by default so you can save the space. I like KDE a lot more on my desktops and laptops and have Unity/Gnome3 as what I'd love to see on touchscreens.


@Plan9: Is there any way to recovery from the / partition being filled? I couldn't seem to boot into a GUI after I messed up one of my scripts (I did a bind before a rsync command and descending into the infinite copy loop) and so it filled the entire 11GB partition I had / on. redface.gif I'm just asking because that seems like a rather easy way then to take out an install.
     
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post #637 of 4043
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@Plan9: Is there any way to recovery from the / partition being filled? I couldn't seem to boot into a GUI after I messed up one of my scripts (I did a bind before a rsync command and descending into the infinite copy loop) and so it filled the entire 11GB partition I had / on. redface.gif I'm just asking because that seems like a rather easy way then to take out an install.
You should be able to log in through a normal text console, and then remove the excess files. If you are at the GUI login screen, hit CTRL-ALT-F1 (or F2-F6), and one of those should give you a text console to log in with.

If you can't get that far, there are other steps we can try.
post #638 of 4043
As the above said, you should still be able to log in to a CLI (X likely wont start though). Failing that, boot a Live CD, mount your /dev/sda1 (or whatever your / is) there and delete the surplus from that.

I've had / fill up on both Linux and FreeBSD a number of times and have not had any problems.
post #639 of 4043
Hmm...what if you were copying say /lib /share and /bin? I was trying out the bind command with another location (/run/shm) and I did the bind before rsync and so what would I do. I knew to drop into a TTY (Alt+Ctl+F1) but had no idea where to go to clean out my huge mistake.

PS: Would relatime cause problems with rsync as opposed to atime?
     
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post #640 of 4043
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Hmm...what if you were copying say /lib /share and /bin? I was trying out the bind command with another location (/run/shm) and I did the bind before rsync and so what would I do. I knew to drop into a TTY (Alt+Ctl+F1) but had no idea where to go to clean out my huge mistake.
PS: Would relatime cause problems with rsync as opposed to atime?

Where did you copy the files to? And where did you bind mount things? Its hard to say exactly where files would end up without more details that way. If you run:
Code:
du -hs folder
on a folder, it will tell you how much space is used. You can follow the large folders to find out where the space is being used.

Also, relatime shouldn't cause any issues. Rsync looks at the mtime, which relatime doesn't affect the handling of.
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