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Poll Results: How long have you been using your current, main installation?

 
  • 24% (50)
    less then a month
  • 23% (47)
    less then six months
  • 14% (30)
    less then a year
  • 24% (49)
    less then three years
  • 13% (27)
    three years+
203 Total Votes  
post #641 of 4043
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Plan9 View Post

As the above said, you should still be able to log in to a CLI (X likely wont start though). Failing that, boot a Live CD, mount your /dev/sda1 (or whatever your / is) there and delete the surplus from that.

I've had / fill up on both Linux and FreeBSD a number of times and have not had any problems.

really? lucky. I wrecked 2 FreeBSD installs that way.
post #642 of 4043
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Originally Posted by jrl1357 View Post

really? lucky. I wrecked 2 FreeBSD installs that way.

How did you manage that? I just deleted the surplus then gave the system a reboot (as dmesg broke) and everything popped back up. In fact both the FreeBSD install I've done this too (repeatedly too I might add) are still used heavily today.
post #643 of 4043
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Plan9 View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by jrl1357 View Post

really? lucky. I wrecked 2 FreeBSD installs that way.

How did you manage that? I just deleted the surplus then gave the system a reboot (as dmesg broke) and everything popped back up. In fact both the FreeBSD install I've done this too (repeatedly too I might add) are still used heavily today.

never found what was taking up the space. after about 2 boots wouldn't go into the fallback shell
post #644 of 4043
Quote:
Originally Posted by MJD View Post

Where did you copy the files to? And where did you bind mount things? Its hard to say exactly where files would end up without more details that way. If you run:
Code:
du -hs folder
on a folder, it will tell you how much space is used. You can follow the large folders to find out where the space is being used.
Also, relatime shouldn't cause any issues. Rsync looks at the mtime, which relatime doesn't affect the handling of.

Was copying the /lib /share /bin dirs into newly created dirs in /run/shm (tmpfs ramlocation) and I had stupidly binded the dirs before the copying so it led to the infinite copy loop and I had no idea where the data was going.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrl1357 View Post

never found what was taking up the space. after about 2 boots wouldn't go into the fallback shell

sounds pretty much just like what happened with me. Oh well...just installed Kubuntu 12.10 and holy crap was is fast. Had everything setup including my extra programs in 20mins including updates and Nvidia drivers and now the computer seems faster than it was when I had preload and prelink installed. Hmm...maybe I should give up preload and prelink. Strangely, the desktop has another default tmpfs mount that 12.10 didn't make on my laptop "/run/shm/user". Wonder if that's helping speed things up.
     
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post #645 of 4043
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rookie1337 View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by MJD View Post

Where did you copy the files to? And where did you bind mount things? Its hard to say exactly where files would end up without more details that way. If you run:
Code:
du -hs folder
on a folder, it will tell you how much space is used. You can follow the large folders to find out where the space is being used.
Also, relatime shouldn't cause any issues. Rsync looks at the mtime, which relatime doesn't affect the handling of.

Was copying the /lib /share /bin dirs into newly created dirs in /run/shm (tmpfs ramlocation) and I had stupidly binded the dirs before the copying so it led to the infinite copy loop and I had no idea where the data was going.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrl1357 View Post

never found what was taking up the space. after about 2 boots wouldn't go into the fallback shell

sounds pretty much just like what happened with me. Oh well...just installed Kubuntu 12.10 and holy crap was is fast. Had everything setup including my extra programs in 20mins including updates and Nvidia drivers and now the computer seems faster than it was when I had preload and prelink installed. Hmm...maybe I should give up preload and prelink. Strangely, the desktop has another default tmpfs mount that 12.10 didn't make on my laptop "/run/shm/user". Wonder if that's helping speed things up.

what were you using before? because I've noticed a big difference both in arch and in fedora over debian squeeze and wheezy (but not really sid) so it might be something with kernel 3.5+. ubuntu doesn't use systemd though does it? that's big thing I notice in fedora over debian . crazy fast boot ups and the shut downs, oh my. somehow even more then arch the fedora shut down is amazingly fast. at first I thought something was wrong!
post #646 of 4043
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Originally Posted by jrl1357 View Post

what were you using before? because I've noticed a big difference both in arch and in fedora over debian squeeze and wheezy (but not really sid) so it might be something with kernel 3.5+. ubuntu doesn't use systemd though does it? that's big thing I notice in fedora over debian . crazy fast boot ups and the shut downs, oh my. somehow even more then arch the fedora shut down is amazingly fast. at first I thought something was wrong!

Yeah I guess that might have been part of the reason my 12.04 desktop quad core was seeming so slow compared to my 12.10 i3 laptop. Systemd is in buntu now but I could have sworn it was in 12.04. Still wondering why there is a /run/user "none fs" on my desktop compared to my laptop in the df -h output.

Dumb question...if I name a folder to be mounted in fstab but it doesn't exist yet will fstab create it or do I have to make that folder first?
     
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post #647 of 4043
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Originally Posted by Rookie1337 View Post

Yeah I guess that might have been part of the reason my 12.04 desktop quad core was seeming so slow compared to my 12.10 i3 laptop. Systemd is in buntu now but I could have sworn it was in 12.04. Still wondering why there is a /run/user "none fs" on my desktop compared to my laptop in the df -h output.
Dumb question...if I name a folder to be mounted in fstab but it doesn't exist yet will fstab create it or do I have to make that folder first?

You have to create it first.
post #648 of 4043
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Originally Posted by jrl1357 View Post

never found what was taking up the space. after about 2 boots wouldn't go into the fallback shell

df -sh /
post #649 of 4043
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Originally Posted by Plan9 View Post

df -sh /

Will that tell you were everything is being written to? I mean would that have helped me with my infinite rsync loop problem or was I completely screwed there?
     
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post #650 of 4043
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Will that tell you were everything is being written to? I mean would that have helped me with my infinite rsync loop problem or was I completely screwed there?

MJD already said;
Quote:
on a folder, it will tell you how much space is used. You can follow the large folders to find out where the space is being used.
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