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Poll Results: How long have you been using your current, main installation?

 
  • 24% (50)
    less then a month
  • 23% (47)
    less then six months
  • 14% (30)
    less then a year
  • 24% (49)
    less then three years
  • 13% (27)
    three years+
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post #751 of 4043
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Originally Posted by xeekei View Post

Btrfs seems to be faster in the areas where it matters for modern computers.
I can't wait for Btrfs, Wayland, systemd. What more weaknesses does Linux have that are/should be addressed?

Canonical?






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post #752 of 4043
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Originally Posted by xeekei View Post

Btrfs seems to be faster in the areas where it matters for modern computers.
I can't wait for Btrfs, Wayland, systemd. What more weaknesses does Linux have that are/should be addressed?

Canonical?






jerry.gif

Haha, that should be an easy fix. Everyone should just stop using and recommending Ubuntu. My favourite distro is Arch Linux, but I understand if you won't suggest that to your mom. Debian should be fine though, and maybe Fedora. tongue.gif
I was more aiming for something technical. wink.gif
post #753 of 4043
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xeekei View Post

Btrfs seems to be faster in the areas where it matters for modern computers.
I can't wait for Btrfs, Wayland, systemd. What more weaknesses does Linux have that are/should be addressed?

Canonical?






jerry.gif

Haha, that should be an easy fix. Everyone should just stop using and recommending Ubuntu. My favourite distro is Arch Linux, but I understand if you won't suggest that to your mom. Debian should be fine though, and maybe Fedora. tongue.gif
I was more aiming for something technical. wink.gif

I recommend LMDE, Debian doesn't contain non-free firmware, which is fine for us but not for the layman. Fedora on the other hand has this firmware, but has repos way to small for my liking, so you have to rpmfusion. Again, not a problem for us, but for these windows gamers to switch or try it it needs to be effortless

EDIT--

not to mention fedora has the same kind of bloat that can be found on ubuntu. but they don't spy on your keyboard, send you ads in your menu or have paid apps in a 'store' plus its not that hard to cut out
post #754 of 4043
Can we even call it a buntu problem since this is only integrated in Unity? Honestly, the rest of the buntus aren't that bad as a generalized distro. I think people expect too much out of a generalized product.

Now I'm curious...what's faster/better; using rsync or GUI drag and copy?
     
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post #755 of 4043
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I recommend LMDE, Debian doesn't contain non-free firmware, which is fine for us but not for the layman. Fedora on the other hand has this firmware, but has repos way to small for my liking, so you have to rpmfusion. Again, not a problem for us, but for these windows gamers to switch or try it it needs to be effortless

EDIT--

not to mention fedora has the same kind of bloat that can be found on ubuntu. but they don't spy on your keyboard, send you ads in your menu or have paid apps in a 'store' plus its not that hard to cut out

I've always wondered what these "non-free firmwares" really are. They can't be that non-free if they are part of a GPL-licensed kernel, can they?
post #756 of 4043
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Originally Posted by Rookie1337 View Post

Now I'm curious...what's faster/better; using rsync or GUI drag and copy?
Impossible question. Too many variables:
  • The DE (some desktop environments have better optimised copy routines)
  • Underlying protocols for the GUI transfer (local, sshfs, cifs, nfs, etc)
  • Whether file selection / typing the comment in incorporated in the timings
  • Whether the time it takes to open a file manager is incorporated in the timings
  • Whether user interaction is required (eg prompts to overwrite files)
  • Whether this is a one off process or a job that's likely to reoccur (ie would automation speed things up in the long run)

It's a little like saying which is better: a boat or a car. It's really a case by case argument.
post #757 of 4043
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Originally Posted by xeekei View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by jrl1357 View Post

I recommend LMDE, Debian doesn't contain non-free firmware, which is fine for us but not for the layman. Fedora on the other hand has this firmware, but has repos way to small for my liking, so you have to rpmfusion. Again, not a problem for us, but for these windows gamers to switch or try it it needs to be effortless

EDIT--

not to mention fedora has the same kind of bloat that can be found on ubuntu. but they don't spy on your keyboard, send you ads in your menu or have paid apps in a 'store' plus its not that hard to cut out

I've always wondered what these "non-free firmwares" really are. They can't be that non-free if they are part of a GPL-licensed kernel, can they?

they are completely non-free. there's called blobs.

this is why debian has to strip the kernel, and projects like this exist: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux-libre

the recommended kernel by the GNU/FSF
post #758 of 4043
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xeekei View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by jrl1357 View Post

I recommend LMDE, Debian doesn't contain non-free firmware, which is fine for us but not for the layman. Fedora on the other hand has this firmware, but has repos way to small for my liking, so you have to rpmfusion. Again, not a problem for us, but for these windows gamers to switch or try it it needs to be effortless

EDIT--

not to mention fedora has the same kind of bloat that can be found on ubuntu. but they don't spy on your keyboard, send you ads in your menu or have paid apps in a 'store' plus its not that hard to cut out

I've always wondered what these "non-free firmwares" really are. They can't be that non-free if they are part of a GPL-licensed kernel, can they?

they are completely non-free. there's called blobs.

this is why debian has to strip the kernel, and projects like this exist: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux-libre

the recommended kernel by the GNU/FSF

Then I guess I've totally misunderstood the GPL licence, because by my understanding that shouldn't be legally possible. confused.gif
post #759 of 4043
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Originally Posted by xeekei View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by jrl1357 View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by xeekei View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by jrl1357 View Post

I recommend LMDE, Debian doesn't contain non-free firmware, which is fine for us but not for the layman. Fedora on the other hand has this firmware, but has repos way to small for my liking, so you have to rpmfusion. Again, not a problem for us, but for these windows gamers to switch or try it it needs to be effortless

EDIT--

not to mention fedora has the same kind of bloat that can be found on ubuntu. but they don't spy on your keyboard, send you ads in your menu or have paid apps in a 'store' plus its not that hard to cut out

I've always wondered what these "non-free firmwares" really are. They can't be that non-free if they are part of a GPL-licensed kernel, can they?

they are completely non-free. there's called blobs.

this is why debian has to strip the kernel, and projects like this exist: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux-libre

the recommended kernel by the GNU/FSF

Then I guess I've totally misunderstood the GPL licence, because by my understanding that shouldn't be legally possible. confused.gif

the GPL makes you give source for anything that it is licensed in and that is based o GPL code. the blobs aren't gpl and arn't based off of gpl code.

it might be better to think of the kernel as mostly GPL. the whole thing isn't GPL, to the best of my understanding each part is licensed by it self when it becomes part of the mainline, most is GPL, some is freeware, BSD, MIT, etc.

EDIT--

to the best of my knowledge the blobs are called blobs because if you download the linux kernel source the firmware will already be in a compiled state, with no source. all the main code in open source though.
post #760 of 4043
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jrl1357 View Post

I recommend LMDE, Debian doesn't contain non-free firmware, which is fine for us but not for the layman. Fedora on the other hand has this firmware, but has repos way to small for my liking, so you have to rpmfusion. Again, not a problem for us, but for these windows gamers to switch or try it it needs to be effortless

EDIT--

not to mention fedora has the same kind of bloat that can be found on ubuntu. but they don't spy on your keyboard, send you ads in your menu or have paid apps in a 'store' plus its not that hard to cut out

I've always wondered what these "non-free firmwares" really are. They can't be that non-free if they are part of a GPL-licensed kernel, can they?

They're just as closed source as any other piece of proprietary software, although redistributing them is allowed. It's for this reason they're included as part of the kernel, for the extra hardware support, as many pieces of hardware do not have open source firmware available.
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