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Poll Results: How long have you been using your current, main installation?

 
  • 24% (50)
    less then a month
  • 23% (47)
    less then six months
  • 14% (30)
    less then a year
  • 24% (49)
    less then three years
  • 13% (27)
    three years+
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post #901 of 4043
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I've used just about every publically available DE/WM and can honestly say I've never seen them use swap tongue.gif

as well I've never used even 1mb of swap when not in suspend
post #902 of 4043
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I've used just about every publically available DE/WM and can honestly say I've never seen them use swap tongue.gif

I don't see a reason for allocating a partition for swap space nowadays anyway, with most modern machines having enough memory. On an older computer, perhaps.
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assumming that swap is available, when you run out of ram. not before. of you have hard data other wise I'd like too see.

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Originally Posted by zflamewing View Post

I've seen on my own installs where Linux has used trace amounts of swap even though I've had over 2GB of RAM free. LMDE seemed to like using about 40MB of swap. I haven't used the system resource monitor that much with XFCE in Arch to see if it's doing it there too.

I don't have any hard data, because there is no hard issues that appear (crashing applications, oom kills, etc). However, I did notice strange issues (weird lag and the like). This happened a long time ago, so details are sparse in my mind. The logic behind it makes sense (and unfortunately is also hard to track down/hard to fix). I'd believe that newer kernels are better (untested), and I'd believe others have never seen an issue. At the same time, Linux likes to hit swap a bit. My laptop is sitting with its swap fully used (at 20M) (16G ram). My desktop is using 134M of 16G (I did that before thinking it be a waste of space) (16G ram). Another desktop I use is sitting at 102M of 1G (32G ram). None of them are running low on ram either due to programs running. So I believe Linux likes having some swap space to play in, and quite frankly 20M-1G of space on drives with capacities reaching into the terabytes means nothing to me. If it makes sure my systems run that little bit better, I'll take it.

EDIT: Just found this blog post, talks about swap and how big to make the partition/file: http://etbe.coker.com.au/?p=3589 .
Edited by MJD - 12/31/12 at 7:08pm
post #904 of 4043
On a completely different subject.........................I just upgraded from an EVGA GT 240 graphics card to an EVGA GTX 550Ti and Linux (Ubuntu 10.04.3 and Linux Mint 14 cinnamon) REALLY don't like it. I originally had Ubuntu 10.04.3 x64 installed on an external HD, triple booting with Windows 7 Ultimate x64 and Windows Server 2008 R2. It could not find a suitable driver for the new card. The screen resolution changed to 1280x1024. I reinstalled and it couldn't find an "Additional Driver" at all. After numerous attempts to install an Nvidia driver (304) manually, I gave up and installed a newer version of Linux Mint 14 Cinnamon x64. I still had to install the driver manually. Does Linux just not like the 550? EVGA has no hints at all.
After a few hours or work-arounds and trying this fix and that fix.......I'm halfway there. Things could be better.

Any suggestions?
post #905 of 4043
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Originally Posted by MJD View Post

I don't have any hard data, because there is no hard issues that appear (crashing applications, oom kills, etc). However, I did notice strange issues (weird lag and the like). This happened a long time ago, so details are sparse in my mind. The logic behind it makes sense (and unfortunately is also hard to track down/hard to fix). I'd believe that newer kernels are better (untested), and I'd believe others have never seen an issue. At the same time, Linux likes to hit swap a bit. My laptop is sitting with its swap fully used (at 20M) (16G ram). My desktop is using 134M of 16G (I did that before thinking it be a waste of space) (16G ram). Another desktop I use is sitting at 102M of 1G (32G ram). None of them are running low on ram either due to programs running. So I believe Linux likes having some swap space to play in, and quite frankly 20M-1G of space on drives with capacities reaching into the terabytes means nothing to me. If it makes sure my systems run that little bit better, I'll take it.
EDIT: Just found this blog post, talks about swap and how big to make the partition/file: http://etbe.coker.com.au/?p=3589 .

I've always set aside about 5GB for swap. I know, I've read that you don't need it if you have 8GB RAM or more but, I have and I've never had a problem.
post #906 of 4043
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Originally Posted by DOS Chuck View Post

On a completely different subject.........................I just upgraded from an EVGA GT 240 graphics card to an EVGA GTX 550Ti and Linux (Ubuntu 10.04.3 and Linux Mint 14 cinnamon) REALLY don't like it. I originally had Ubuntu 10.04.3 x64 installed on an external HD, triple booting with Windows 7 Ultimate x64 and Windows Server 2008 R2. It could not find a suitable driver for the new card. The screen resolution changed to 1280x1024. I reinstalled and it couldn't find an "Additional Driver" at all. After numerous attempts to install an Nvidia driver (304) manually, I gave up and installed a newer version of Linux Mint 14 Cinnamon x64. I still had to install the driver manually. Does Linux just not like the 550? EVGA has no hints at all.
After a few hours or work-arounds and trying this fix and that fix.......I'm halfway there. Things could be better.
Any suggestions?

The nvidia proprietary driver technically breaks the GPL (as last I was aware anyways - that may have changed) and thus isn't supplied with the stock kernel or distributed via any stock distribution. Ubuntu is configured to grab and install it if need be automatically, however. I do not believe Mint works the same way (again, been a while since I've messed with this particular issue and these distros).

If you grab the driver directly from the nvidia website, drop to a root shell (no gui, don't have X running at all, etc...) and run the script you downloaded. It will build and install the kernel module and take care of your xorg.conf. When I've done this I've never had an issue with using the card as easily or as well as I would in Windows. If you try to manually do the same with a GUI, however, you'll run into problems.
    
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Ok, finally have my offical joining ss.

 

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Hey guys, nice club you have here. I've attached a screenshot of my laptop's Lubuntu desktop. My gaming rig is still running Windows for now due to numerous issues I've had trying to install Ubuntu on it. Any suggestions on some useful utilities I should install on this laptop? So far all I've installed is Vim, Conky, Wine, and some GTK/Openbox themes. All I will use this machine for, until I find more uses, will be the usual web browsing, office applications, Python and Bash scripting, and some Popcap games (for my wife) through Wine. It was a budget laptop even when it was new, sporting a Pentium 4 1.6 Ghz and 512 Mb RAM, but for $50 I can't complain. I'll probably upgrade the RAM to the maximum 2 GB eventually. RAM is pretty cheap.

post #909 of 4043
I'm really getting annoyed with the fact that I have to use this line,
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rfkill unblock wifi

and restart my netbook every time the wifi light on the front doesn't come on. >_<<br />
It so happens that Broadcom and Atheros wifi chips are exceptionally notorious for this. Also, I do not have a hard switch for the wifi. It's a key combo (Fn + F2) to turn it on and off.
    
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I'm really getting annoyed with the fact that I have to use this line,
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rfkill unblock wifi
and restart my netbook every time the wifi light on the front doesn't come on. >_<</div>
You shouldn't need to reboot your netbook. Just up the interface.
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It so happens that Broadcom and Atheros wifi chips are exceptionally notorious for this. Also, I do not have a hard switch for the wifi. It's a key combo (Fn + F2) to turn it on and off.
A key combo is much better than a hard switch. My work laptop has a physical key right next to the [del] key and I'm forever killing WiFi in the middle of working (doubly infuriating because it forces my VPN tunnel into work down and breaks the session completely, so I have to VPN in from my personal laptop to force a new session, cleanly close that tunnel then restart the VPN from my work laptop. much rage happens given I accidentally hit that wifi toggle ~twice an hour)
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