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post #911 of 4043
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You shouldn't need to reboot your netbook. Just up the interface.
A key combo is much better than a hard switch. My work laptop has a physical key right next to the [del] key and I'm forever killing WiFi in the middle of working (doubly infuriating because it forces my VPN tunnel into work down and breaks the session completely, so I have to VPN in from my personal laptop to force a new session, cleanly close that tunnel then restart the VPN from my work laptop. much rage happens given I accidentally hit that wifi toggle ~twice an hour)

The kill switch for my wifi is on the edge under the keyboard fortunately. That would not be a fun.

What's the major differences between LMDE and Debian?
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post #912 of 4043
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You shouldn't need to reboot your netbook. Just up the interface.

Could you elaborate?

Also, sucks about the VPN thing.





On another topic, what's the lightest desktop environment for Ubuntu? I'm currently using Unity 2D, and I feel it's taking up too many resources. I've installed Compiz and disabled a few things, here and there.

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What's the major differences between LMDE and Debian?
Not used LMDE, but I'd wager:
  • more recent packages,
  • more non-free packages installed by default
  • and more glitzy DEs included by default

Quote:
Originally Posted by legoman786 View Post

Could you elaborate?
It's been a while since I've fiddled with the rfkill command, but IIRC, rfkill basically enables or disables the device but sometimes the network interface needs to be manually started.

To be honest, I'd need to be on the machine to play around, but as everything in Linux is modular, you can just restart whatever detection is needed after you've unblocked via rfkill, instead of having to physically reboot the whole machine.
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On another topic, what's the lightest desktop environment for Ubuntu? I'm currently using Unity 2D, and I feel it's taking up too many resources. I've installed Compiz and disabled a few things, here and there.
I'm using an Acer Aspire One AO532h. Intel Atom N450, 2GB RAM, and 60GB HDD. The original 320GB HDD it shipped with died while in the hands of some adolescent children.
LXDE
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Quote:
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Plan9 View Post

You shouldn't need to reboot your netbook. Just up the interface.
A key combo is much better than a hard switch. My work laptop has a physical key right next to the [del] key and I'm forever killing WiFi in the middle of working (doubly infuriating because it forces my VPN tunnel into work down and breaks the session completely, so I have to VPN in from my personal laptop to force a new session, cleanly close that tunnel then restart the VPN from my work laptop. much rage happens given I accidentally hit that wifi toggle ~twice an hour)

The kill switch for my wifi is on the edge under the keyboard fortunately. That would not be a fun.

What's the major differences between LMDE and Debian?

Debian has four main branches: oldstable, Stable, testing, and unstable, codenames (ATM) squeeze, wheezy, and sid (unstable is always sid)

Stable contains software very close to a RHEL level of stability- older but highly tested and patched software. for example, on my machine I have kernel 2.6.32-5. I have chromium 6, and it came with firefox 3.5 (but I backported firefox 19 alpha because 3.5 was killing me). most of the software is about ~1-1.5 years old when it ships, and the release cycle is about 2-2.5 years long. squeeze is nearing oldstable, so most of the software is about 3 years old.

Testing conteins software closer to a ubuntu level. at the moment wheezy is almost stable, so that is less true, but when ubuntu 12.04 launched testing was using the same major kernel version (3.2) mainly because all packages for both come from sid. more on that latter. now it's 'frozen' so while it would normally be using kernel 3.4-5 by now, it's still using 3.2. when wheezy becomes stable and testing becomes jeese, it will catch back up.

Unstable is the dev end of debian. it contains packages that are 'cutting edge' it's most of the time at arch/gentoo/fedora level. for example, it's using kernel 3.6 or maybe even 3.7 by now. it will always be called sid, but it's mainly for dev's and thus is not as stable as the other branches or even as arch/fedora/etc because less work is put it to making sure things don't break (and more on patching bugs and moving to testing)

oldstable installs are obsolete stable releases which are normally supported for at least a year or so after a new stable. (after this they don't recive any updates, but the repos are still live in the archives and thusyou could still continue to use it if you wanted/needed)

LMDE is based on debian testing. the main difference are the 'mint touch' but it also has to own repos, because to avoid breaks they package everything in 'update packs' so it's really semi-rolling vs. debian testing and unstable which are both true rolling.
post #915 of 4043
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Debian has four main branches: oldstable, Stable, testing, and unstable, codenames (ATM) squeeze, wheezy, and sid (unstable is always sid)
Stable contains software very close to a RHEL level of stability- older but highly tested and patched software. for example, on my machine I have kernel 2.6.32-5. I have chromium 6, and it came with firefox 3.5 (but I backported firefox 19 alpha because 3.5 was killing me). most of the software is about ~1-1.5 years old when it ships, and the release cycle is about 2-2.5 years long. squeeze is nearing oldstable, so most of the software is about 3 years old.
Testing conteins software closer to a ubuntu level. at the moment wheezy is almost stable, so that is less true, but when ubuntu 12.04 launched testing was using the same major kernel version (3.2) mainly because all packages for both come from sid. more on that latter. now it's 'frozen' so while it would normally be using kernel 3.4-5 by now, it's still using 3.2. when wheezy becomes stable and testing becomes jeese, it will catch back up.
Unstable is the dev end of debian. it contains packages that are 'cutting edge' it's most of the time at arch/gentoo/fedora level. for example, it's using kernel 3.6 or maybe even 3.7 by now. it will always be called sid, but it's mainly for dev's and thus is not as stable as the other branches or even as arch/fedora/etc because less work is put it to making sure things don't break (and more on patching bugs and moving to testing)
oldstable installs are obsolete stable releases which are normally supported for at least a year or so after a new stable. (after this they don't recive any updates, but the repos are still live in the archives and thusyou could still continue to use it if you wanted/needed)
LMDE is based on debian testing. the main difference are the 'mint touch' but it also has to own repos, because to avoid breaks they package everything in 'update packs' so it's really semi-rolling vs. debian testing and unstable which are both true rolling.

I just might have give Debian a spin when I reformat Frejya and run my multi boot layout.
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LXDE

You should put a little more emphasis on LXDE. It's like king of the *buntus as far as how lightweight it is.
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LXDE

You should put a little more emphasis on LXDE. It's like king of the *buntus as far as how lightweight it is.

wrong. ubuntu server, minimal, install a standalone window manager like openbox or DWM.
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wrong. ubuntu server, minimal, install a standalone window manager like openbox or DWM.

I was going off the fact that he said "desktop environment". Ubuntu Server is cheating typer.gif
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It's been a while since I've fiddled with the rfkill command, but IIRC, rfkill basically enables or disables the device but sometimes the network interface needs to be manually started.
To be honest, I'd need to be on the machine to play around, but as everything in Linux is modular, you can just restart whatever detection is needed after you've unblocked via rfkill, instead of having to physically reboot the whole machine.

I can add my RJ45 patch cable into it and it will detect the network. I doubt the network service needs manually restarted. Unless, I'm missing something. Then, please elaborate. I would love to get to know this side of OS's further.
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LXDE
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You should put a little more emphasis on LXDE. It's like king of the *buntus as far as how lightweight it is.

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wrong. ubuntu server, minimal, install a standalone window manager like openbox or DWM.

2 things; 1. How painful/painless is the install? and 2. I love having the work space switcher. Is that integrated with LXDE?
    
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2 things; 1. How painful/painless is the install? and 2. I love having the work space switcher. Is that integrated with LXDE?

As far as I know LXDE has the workspace buttons. I'm not at home so I can't boot up my laptop (Arch + LXDE), but I'm pretty sure it does.

For how painful the install is, you can go 2 ways: if you don't have anything to lose and want a clean slate, just download the Lubuntu iso and do a fresh install. Or, you could install the lubuntu-desktop package and switch between the 2.
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