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So my build is:

AMD Phenom II X4 965 C3 @ 4ghz (200x20 1.5 cpu vcore, load temps of 51C) (cpu/nb @ 2.6ghz, 1.35 cpu/nb vcore)
EVGA GTX 570 @ 850/2100
Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3
Kingston HyperX Blu 8gb (2x4gb) DDR3 1333 (9-9-9-27) ram
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Corsair GS600 600w 80 Plus Certified power supply
Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
Hyper 212+ Cpu Cooler
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So I overclocked my ram to 1600mhz cl9 (9-9-9-24) with 1.55 dram voltage and it was stable (hours of gaming and prime95) so I figured why not try to go to cl8 (yes I know, that's a pretty tough thing to ask for from my generic 1333 cl9 ram). I set the timings to 8-8-8-24 with 1.65 dram voltage and it got to the gigabyte logo screen but froze there. So I cleared cmos and it posted just fine, I got into bios and everything and then tried to boot on everything stock, but when I get to the windows logo, it blue screens and quickly restarts, not allowing me to see what it said.

I have tried windows startup repair (said windows can't be repaired), windows memory diagnostic in the windows startup repair (said no errors were found), reseating ram into the different slots, reseating with only one stick of ram, and the same thing happens every time at the windows logo, it blue screens.

I have now reinstalled windows now and it is running fine at everything stock (mad that I have to reinstall everything on my hard drive again just after I got all my programs back from the last reinstall from upgrading to this new motherboard), but I find it odd that ocing ram corrupted my hard drive's boot files.

So is that what happened? Also, should I go back to 1600mhz cl9 on my ram (since it was stable before), or just leave it back to 1333mhz (possibly buy better ram than this generic 1333 cl9)? Would it be fine to set all my overclocks back again? I'm just worried that I have damaged my ram, damaged my ram slots, or damaged anything for that matter.
Edited by auraofjason - 4/2/12 at 2:59pm
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Sounds like a driver got corrupted. I had this issue before while doing just CPU overclocking. I have yet to find a fix for when that happens.
    
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When you cleared CMOS set the Sata mode to Ahci or IDE whichever you're using .-


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Yeah, if you had the wrong SATA mode set, it would give you a BSOD trying to load Windows.

Memory instability can still corrupt drives pretty easily, and testing for at least basic stability with something like memtest86, before letting the OS load, is a very good idea.
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Hmm I didn't even think of that, not sure if it was because of that, but if this ever happens again I'll check those things first, thanks.
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^ You should check those settings.  The "drivers corrupted" diagnosis is corrupt in itself, by the way; there is no way the driver files on the hard drive should be corrupted during the loading process if the RAM is unable to sustain stable operation, because tthe system is only reading from the HDD and not writing during boot.  The failure is occurring in the memory, not the hard drive.  If memory instability were to happen during, say, the updating of drivers, then that diagnosis would be valid.  It is not whatsoever.

 

If you can confirm that it is stable (you've already put in the effort and determined stability so it is useless to be debating that), continuing on at 1600 CL9 is ideal (you are exceptionally lucky to have a generic 1333 CL9 RAM kit that is actually capable of doing those settings as there are normally no binning/clocking guarantees with generic memory, thus you shouldn't have high expectations).  There are benefits that may be worth it depending on the applications that you run; i.e. if you often work with WinRAR and compressing/extracting large files, you should go ahead as there may be a decent time-to-compress benefit in store for you.


Edited by xd_1771 - 4/2/12 at 5:04pm
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While I/O during booting is mostly reads, there is usually a significant portion of writes as well (stuff being paged, logs, prefetch data being shifted around, traces being updated, etc) , even if you don't include start up tasks that may be writing registry backups, checking for errors, or degfragmenting the drive. A few flipped bits during any of these can lead to a corrupt file being written, the wrong data being written to the wrong part of the drive, causing something that shouldn't be overwritten to be overwritten.

I have personally experienced drive corruption, caused by failed memory, during boot that rendered the system so unusable I had to wipe the drive and start over with a fresh OS install.
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