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1. Something as likely as $100 more, is ridiculous. This is NOT a far-fetched possibility.
2. This is exactly what AMD consumers are doing, buying what fulfills their needs. Now explain to me why the closed-minded intel loyal feel a need to come to AMD forums to try and sway away people from buying what suits their needs and budget?
Was the Bulldozer over-hyped? Yes. Was it a failure? Of course not. Computerparts, among others, have proved it. The FX line is doing well in terms of sales for a reason. I have both and I swear no one will ever be able to tell the difference between the two. The only real difference is that the 8120, cost me $30 less.

The fact that its predecessor performs better than BD, only means its a failure.

The OP is asking if the 6100 is a good buy, we are just answering his question, it is not a good buy, phenom ii x6 is better than BD 6100, it is cheaper, runs cooler, consumes less electricity. Better in every aspect, and thats what makes bulldozer a failure.
post #102 of 138
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doh.gif Trump, you're killing me here. That is irrelevant as not ALL 2600K's can hit that speed just like not ALL 8150's will top out at 4.7GHz. Using your logic, benches with an FX @ 8GHz under LN2 and an i5 @ 5.5GHz under LN2 would be a completely fair comparison and end all for determining a clear winner. Can we agree that these benchmarks clearly gave an unfair edge to intel?

We can agree on that. Your reply suggested that clock speed difference alone is the sole reason for the performance gap. It is not. I also disagree that 2600K is a wrongful comparison. All 2600K brings are hyperthread and extra 2 MB L3 cache. Which you and I both know play very little to none role in gaming performance. It is also a fact that hyperthread does sometime hurt gaming performance. Therefore it is accurate to use 2600K as an estimate of 2500K gaming performance.
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1. Something as likely as $100 more, is ridiculous. This is NOT a far-fetched possibility.
2. This is exactly what AMD consumers are doing, buying what fulfills their needs. Now explain to me why the closed-minded intel loyal feel a need to come to AMD forums to try and sway away people from buying what suits their needs and budget?
Was the Bulldozer over-hyped? Yes. Was it a failure? Of course not. Computerparts, among others, have proved it. The FX line is doing well in terms of sales for a reason. I have both and I swear no one will ever be able to tell the difference between the two. The only real difference is that the 8120, cost me $30 less.

You seem to forget that during the beginning of x64 era AMD had stronger performance than Intel. During that time AMD also priced their CPU higher than Intel counterpart. Now the role is simply reversed.

My comment is that buying AMD just to keep the company alive is a wrong decision a buyer can make. Keeping AMD alive just to keep CPU price in check is also a wrong assumption. I know there is a lot of loyalist on this forum. I also know that during Pentium 4 era a lot of AMD loyalist done what Intel loyalists have done.
Edited by trumpet-205 - 4/4/12 at 7:51pm
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post #103 of 138
Full amd user here, always prefered amd. That is just about to change finally going sandy or ivy bridge this month, bulldozer is garbage a step down from their last proccessers which were still behind intel at the time. Its such a shame amd really did let their fan base down, I bought an am3+ board along with alot of other people thinking we could upgrade in the future. But its a step back in gaming which is really sad. All you had to do amd was try match intel but isntead you try to make fancy 8 cores to one up intel but take a step back in basic tasks.
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can we all agree that the amd fx is great for editing video?
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I think it would definitely be an upgrade from a Q6600 - that's tech thats over four years old, and regardless of how poor the new BD might compare to CURRENT i5's is irrelevant for his upgrade. I actually bought the 6100 and an ASRock extreme 3 mobo for myself, but after doing a bit of research, discovered that it wasn't actually an upgrade for me (had a first gen i5-750). I would however, drop the extra $30 and go with the 8120 and set yourself up for another 2-3 years of solid computing. I really think that BD just is having a bad start - that doesn't mean the CPU is junk and won't perform; I just think like so many other things in life we get so hyped up for it, it's a bit of a let down when we actually get the real deal.

BLUF (Bottom Line Up Front): get the FX 8120 and a new 990 mobo - you won't be dissapointed.
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Can anyone care to explain why lots of amd fanboys are switching to intel, but no intel fanboy is switching to amd?
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im not loyal to and company well maybe sony but far as intel vs amd i go with hwo ever i can get for the best price and the cpu still do what i want it to do
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Can anyone care to explain why lots of amd fanboys are switching to intel, but no intel fanboy is switching to amd?

From what I've observed and gathered, intel fanboys are generally very childish and close-minded. They lack common sense and the ability to accurately weigh the pros and cons of any given situation. They also seem to lack basic math skills, and the ability to apply those skills to word problems. They find comfort in numbers, and by numbers, I mean trends and popularity. Proof can be found within this same thread.

The AMD "fanboys," that are "switching," are just people that share the same characteristics outlined above.

You know G-Rider, for someone who's 26/soon to be 26 years old, you should be past this. If you can manage to open your eyes, ears and mind all at the same time, you'd see things in a different light, and learn a thing or two.
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From what I've observed and gathered, intel fanboys are generally very childish and close-minded. They lack common sense and the ability to accurately weigh the pros and cons of any given situation. They also seem to lack basic math skills, and the ability to apply those skills to word problems. They find comfort in numbers, and by numbers, I mean trends and popularity. Proof can be found within this same thread.

Except every single thread about should I get bulldozer or 2500/2600k you have bombarded it with charts and numbers hmmm but ye all intel care about is the numbers....
Dont get me wrong, I really wish bd was amazing cause I have been excited about it for a while the whole reason I didnt switch back to intel after my first 2500k and motherboard fried was that I was sure bd was going to be amazing just like everyone else did. I guess most of us are just sour now because Im a bit but hurt that I bought the motherboard and have the money here to get an 8150 but every time I see a thread about it, it scares me away from bulldozer. I guess I should get it for myself and not trust peoples opinions but I dont want to get it then have them say told you so >_>
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I guess I should get it for myself and not trust peoples opinions but I dont want to get it then have them say told you so >_>

Why rely on opinion concerning something that can be determined with utmost accuracy? Benchmarks and reviews exist for a reason.
    
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