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Benchmarks are an k indication but are never accurate to actual user experiences in gaming, EVER. Every system differes, everyone plays diffrerent games. Benchmarkers arnt playing the full game and reporting there experiences etc.
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From what I've observed and gathered, intel fanboys are generally very childish and close-minded. They lack common sense and the ability to accurately weigh the pros and cons of any given situation. They also seem to lack basic math skills, and the ability to apply those skills to word problems. They find comfort in numbers, and by numbers, I mean trends and popularity. Proof can be found within this same thread.
Except every single thread about should I get bulldozer or 2500/2600k you have bombarded it with charts and numbers hmmm but ye all intel care about is the numbers....
Dont get me wrong, I really wish bd was amazing cause I have been excited about it for a while the whole reason I didnt switch back to intel after my first 2500k and motherboard fried was that I was sure bd was going to be amazing just like everyone else did. I guess most of us are just sour now because Im a bit but hurt that I bought the motherboard and have the money here to get an 8150 but every time I see a thread about it, it scares me away from bulldozer. I guess I should get it for myself and not trust peoples opinions but I dont want to get it then have them say told you so >_>

I don't blame you for being concerned. If you have the money to buy a 2600k, Id say go for it. But if your budget only allows for a 2500k, why not save an extra $30 and get the 8120? You already have the mobo right? If you want an honest comparison between the two, invest the time to read through this:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1210060/fx8120-vs-2500k-benchmark-results

I cant tell the difference between my 2550k and my 8120. They run the same and cost the same. It just freaks me out sometimes to see the temps of the 2550k. It takes some getting use to.
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There is nothing more i can say but this
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Ye I have the mobo and I have enough for the 8150 =p Which is half the price of the 2500k and motherboard but still worried because of nearly every thread here with someone asking about it they get told its awfull including me, I think my first thread here was asking If I should get an fx or 2500k replacment and I got mouth fulls tongue.gif
Whats a better overclocker the 8120 or the 8150. Got a antec 620 to cool it atm but will be getting a h100 next month either way.
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Ye I have the mobo and I have enough for the 8150 =p Which is half the price of the 2500k and motherboard but still worried because of nearly every thread here with someone asking about it they get told its awfull including me, I think my first thread here was asking If I should get an fx or 2500k replacment and I got mouth fulls tongue.gif
Whats a better overclocker the 8120 or the 8150. Got a antec 620 to cool it atm but will be getting a h100 next month either way.

Many will argue that it is the exact same chip, so go with the 8120. Its $60 less than the 8150 too. If you're part of a very lucky few, its $180 at Microcenter. Many have proven that its a great cpu overall. Dont let the fanboys fool you. I guarantee that you wont be disappointed thumb.gif

My first 8120 hit a wall at 4.7GHz. My second 8120 is currently at 5.0GHz. I'm waiting to buy a better water block for some further O.C.ing.

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Thats why 2500k is GENERALLY better, why do you need 8 fake cores if you can only use 4?
And no, 8120 isn't on par with 2600k bro, 2600k is a lot better.
Phenom ii x6 is even faster than 8120
WEI? are you kidding me? Noobness at its finest.

you have obviously never used an 8120 so im not gonna respond to you anymore.... and its 8 LEGIT cores.

It's not.
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you know, im going to exchange my 8120 and get a 2600k

Nice.
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my 2600k is gonna be way better than any 2500k

In some games and in rendering, yes. Few FPS in games, but a big leap in rendering.
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Actually, I do believe FX bottlenecks on 3 way 6970 CF, which is about the same as 2 x 6990.
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/4353/amd_fx_8150_vs_intel_i7_2600k_crossfirex_hd_6970_x3_head_to_head/index5.html
(Test is done on 2600K, but shouldn't be a too much difference in gaming performance).
Also in the benchmark you have linked multiple times, 2500K do have better FPS than 8120. Do look closely. Shouldn't matter that much since many people are still on 60 Hz monitor (extra FPS matters if you are planning/using 120 Hz monitor).

I never claimed the 8120 to be a better gamer than the 2500k. The 2500k will usually net higher fps across the board, especially with outdated and poorly coded games. There is no doubt about that. Its been proven by mostly biased and un-biased benchmarks. However, it is NO WHERE NEAR at the kind of levels that many of the "fanboy duche united" here claim it to be. At the very best, it's something like a 30% improvement with the 2500k over the 8120. Credit to the 2500k is due. But a computer is not all about gaming.

I respect your opinions, Trumpet, but you can't tell me that the comparison by Tweakertown.com was a fair review of said cpus. First of all, the i7 is in a league of its own, both in performance and price. To add insult to injury, the i7 is clocked 500MHz HIGHER than the 8150. This is the kind of trash that I'm talking about. Everyone knows that even a poor overclocking 8120 can hit 4.7GHz. That's what I love about computerparts' review. It was a fair, balanced, and un-biased review of two cpu's with O.C.'s that just about everyone can attain.

Most 2500K's hit 5Ghz easy on air. I have seen upwards of 100% increase in games, my minimum FPS in SC2 with a 4.2Ghz Phenom II was 12FPS. Same GPU, Same RAM and a 4.5Ghz 2500K I get a min FPS of 40.
A poor overclocking 2500K can hit 4.8Ghz
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Don't, your 8120 faildozer is the best cpu out there, youll just wastin your money if you switch to 2600k.

would you just ****? honest. your like a little 5 year old.
I'm not switching to i7 because of you... its because i would rather have better performance without my electric bill skyrocketing

You're so hypocritical lachen.gif
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You said your 8120 can't be beaten by any cpu? Why switch now?
And oh, u mad bro?

No actually im not mad at all... and the 8120 is a great cpu no doubt. and it does cream an i5... but i would rather get the same performance for less power usage

Proof?
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Again, 8120 and 2600k doesn't have the same level of performance. The 2600k is better in every aspect.

pretty much depends on how high you overclock the FX. no doubt a stock fx cant match with a 2600k.. but u get that sucker to 5 ghz it crunches any app

But then you get the 2600K to 5Ghz too and it beats the 8120 in every app too~
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You can OC the 8120 but you can't OC the 2600k?

i dont know dude... but anyways im gonna shoot for 5ghz on the 2600k. for what it costs it better make me breakfast also

Costs less than a 8120?
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i do video editing and audio editing and love my amd fx 8120 got it and a gigabyte fxa 990 ud3 and 8 gigs a ddrs 3 for like 290 at micro center

Dem agt gegerbites af deedeeerrrss... And you didn't get that combo because you made a thread complaining how your budget motherboard's un-heatsinked VRMs were not enough to overclock your CPU.

Also for video / audio editing you want stability. For stability you want stock, and better at stock will be the 2600K. And for audio, most programs really don't need a good CPU. Heck a Core 2 Duo is more than enough.
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can we all agree that the amd fx is great for editing video?

See above.

Also Intel tends to have better support with video editing programs.
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Can anyone care to explain why lots of amd fanboys are switching to intel, but no intel fanboy is switching to amd?

Hnnnng because Bulldozer failed ;D
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im not loyal to and company well maybe sony but far as intel vs amd i go with hwo ever i can get for the best price and the cpu still do what i want it to do

So you gonna go out and buy a Pentium 4 or Athon CPU because they're really cheap and run Windows 95 amazingly well!
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I guess I should get it for myself and not trust peoples opinions but I dont want to get it then have them say told you so >_>

Why rely on opinion concerning something that can be determined with utmost accuracy? Benchmarks and reviews exist for a reason.

This
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Benchmarks are an k indication but are never accurate to actual user experiences in gaming, EVER. Every system differes, everyone plays diffrerent games. Benchmarkers arnt playing the full game and reporting there experiences etc.

Wah no. Ever heard of like Unigine Heaven Benchmark, or the countless other GAME BENCHMARKS FOR TESTING FPS IN GAMES?

Plus I can concur that my 2500K is better than a 965 BE after playing the same games thoroughly.
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Ye I have the mobo and I have enough for the 8150 =p Which is half the price of the 2500k and motherboard but still worried because of nearly every thread here with someone asking about it they get told its awfull including me, I think my first thread here was asking If I should get an fx or 2500k replacment and I got mouth fulls tongue.gif
Whats a better overclocker the 8120 or the 8150. Got a antec 620 to cool it atm but will be getting a h100 next month either way.

Many will argue that it is the exact same chip, so go with the 8120. Its $60 less than the 8150 too. If you're part of a very lucky few, its $180 at Microcenter. Many have proven that its a great cpu overall. Dont let the fanboys fool you. I guarantee that you wont be disappointed thumb.gif

My first 8120 hit a wall at 4.7GHz. My second 8120 is currently at 5.0GHz. I'm waiting to buy a better water block for some further O.C.ing.

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Yeah go ahead get it... you totally won't be wondering about your low min FPS in games and how you could've gotten a lot better for the same price ;D
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alex thats the combo i got why would i lie i didnt know it had a heat sink on the vrms still not really sure it does because i don't know where they are and sure make fun of how i type you must be a real nice person.
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Ye I have the mobo and I have enough for the 8150 =p Which is half the price of the 2500k and motherboard but still worried because of nearly every thread here with someone asking about it they get told its awfull including me, I think my first thread here was asking If I should get an fx or 2500k replacment and I got mouth fulls tongue.gif
Whats a better overclocker the 8120 or the 8150. Got a antec 620 to cool it atm but will be getting a h100 next month either way.

I see in your sig you plan on getting a GTX680....

Look I don't stock in AMD Intel or Nvidia so your decision doesn't benefit me either way. I gotta be honest with you though: You'll hit the wall with a Bulldozer chip. You won't notice it at first but the moment you start playing games that are more CPU dependent you'll see your performance fall through the floor. Check out this review.

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Now think about it: If Bulldozer bottlenecks the HD7970...and the GTX680 is faster (in some games) than the 7970... then what do you think will happen with YOUR card? The low IPC and slower cache really hurt Bulldozer when it comes to math functions - that's always been the weakness of AMD. The problem is BD made it worse, and (some) games are are starting to utilize it more.
    
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All i gotta say is.. "RESPECT" one simple question leads to 13 pages of argument.. tongue.gif
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i say if you are happy with the cpu you got then thats all that matters i bet id like the 2500 but i also like my fx
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