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In my own personal tradition, every few years I upgrade all of my gear with a nice little budget....this year it's $2500 for the Ultimate FX4 system. Being a professional who travels a lot (even OC'ers get civilized), I don't have time to keep up with all the latest and greatest hardware, but I love having a kick a$$ system cuz I do lots of gaming and graphics editing, so I like to turn to the forums to get help from all you experts while creating a lively debate from different opinions as well, give's me some options and research material to figure out what's best. Thanks ahead of time

So here's the deal....

I want to change...
CPU
Mobo (want to change this to a newer Gigabyte model)
Graphics Card (5870 is a bit old)
RAM: GSKILL's are great, but if I change them I need another 12Gb
SSD: Hell yeah, but need just 256Gb for OS and other apps I want to fly

I want to keep...
Monitors (just got the HP's, and they rock)
Case (keep it, don't care for a new case)
Power Supply (The Corsair is kick a$$, no reason to change it out)
HD: I'll keep the Samsung's for archiving music and other stuff.
Windows 7 64 bit

Thanks again
SAFX
Edited by SAFX - 4/2/12 at 7:42pm
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For a second I thought you were going to spend $2500 on an AMD FX4000 series rig... I was prepared to assault you for it smile.gif

CPU: Core i7 3930k
Mobo: Asrock X79 Extreme6(or Gigabyte X79 UD5)
GPU: GTX 680
SSD: Crucial M4 256
RAM: 4x8GB Muskin Blackline(32GB)

Total: $1900
Edited by BizzareRide - 4/2/12 at 7:41pm
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post #3 of 13
+1 for the rig outlined above. And you get $600 change.
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Originally Posted by BizzareRide View Post

For a second I thought you were going to spend $2500 on an AMD FX4000 series rig... I was prepared to assault you for it smile.gif
CPU: Core i7 3930k
Mobo: Asrock X79 Extreme6(or Gigabyte X79 UD5)
GPU: GTX 680
SSD: Crucial M4 256
RAM: 4x8GB Muskin Blackline(32GB)
Total: $1900

Who makes Asrock? Is that ASUS?
+1 on the Crucial M4, I was looking at that
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BizzareRide View Post

For a second I thought you were going to spend )
CPU: Core i7 3930k
Mobo: Asrock X79 Extreme6(or Gigabyte X79 UD5)
GPU: GTX 680
SSD: Crucial M4 256
RAM: 4x8GB Muskin Blackline(32GB)
Total: $1900

32GB of RAM, really? You must be one of those people who think that RAM = Speed. You only need 16GB, TOPS. 8 is fine, 12 is overkill for most things. It is far more important to have fast ram (tight timings, high clock speed, lots of channels) than it is to have lots of it. SSD's also matter much more, as they are the ones doing the transferring.

RAM essentially stores data in between the CPU and HDD. Thats all its there for. If you are using a CD as a hard drive, and writing data to it takes years, but you are working with 18gb Maya files, then yes, that much RAM would be handy. However, your SSD is capable of writing that data at speeds that make storing it in the "overflow container" almost unnecessary. To put it simply, I work with 10ft x 10ft 400 DPI photoshop files all the time (Vector and raster combined, layer effects and hundreds of layers) and rarely go above 6gb RAM usage with a standard HDD. Gaming rarely uses above 5gb, so thats not even a point worth arguing.

TL;DR: Save the money on the RAM, buy 12gb of the fastest stuff around, and get yourself another 680 with the money you saved and the extra you saved.

boolean end.rant = true;

EDIT: To answer your question, Asrock makes Asrock. They are their own brand, and judging based on what I have seen recently, they make really nice, feature-loaded boards. However, their customer service is supposed to be sub par (really the only complaint I've heard).
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Based on newegg, that Asrock board has got some terrible reviews, unstable, dead after just 1 day, etc, etc,
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SLI that 680
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32GB of RAM, really? You must be one of those people who think that RAM = Speed. You only need 16GB, TOPS. 8 is fine, 12 is overkill for most things.
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I do lots of....graphics editing

SSDs are still significantly slower than RAM, and RAM is significantly slower than embedded RAM like cache. Yet, if what you're saying is entirely true, then there would be no need for RAM at all. We would just read/write everything to cache.

Even with lots of bandwidth, there's still latency involved in accessing large files on your mass storage versus having an entire 8GB scene loaded into RAM.

I suggest 32GB because he may not know what his demands are in the future.

Also, thanks for generalizing me.
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post #9 of 13
if you're coming from x58, it might be worthwhile to just get a 6-core for that platform. would really free up your budget - you could probably squeeze in x3 680's.
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Based on newegg, that Asrock board has got some terrible reviews, unstable, dead after just 1 day, etc, etc,

? The Asrock that I suggested has 5-stars average. Its best to just ignore them anyway, most aren't even reasonable.

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