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Hey guys I have a friend who wants me to build him a computer for ~$600 w/ Windows 7. So basically ~$500 for the tower and included parts, minus the monitor/keyboard/mouse. Here's what I have so far....mainly from Newegg bundle deals:

Windows 7 OEM

AMD Phenom II X4 965

Seagate Barracuda Green 1.5tb

Gigabyte GA-880GM (REV. 3.1) AM3+

Rosewill Case w/ 500w PSU

G.SKILL 4gb DDR3 1600

LITE-ON DVD Burner

EVGA GTX 550 Ti

Price w/ all the combo/instate savings = $611.97

He wants to mainly play MMO's and is really interested in playing The Secret World and Guild Wars 2 in the future. Currently plays WOW and something else I cant recall atm lol.

So does this look like a solid build? Will it play MMO's at good framerates? Is there anything I should add or can you come up with something better for cheaper? Any help would be appreciated! I just wanna give my friend something reliable and decently fast. thumb.gif
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If I were you I would add at least another 2gb memory if not an extra 4gb
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Possibly check out AMD's new APU's. I do MMO's with an A8-3870k and have NO problems what so ever.
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Possibly check out AMD's new APU's. I do MMO's with an A8-3870k and have NO problems what so ever.

Oh yea I forgot about them....I'll take a look!
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post #5 of 14

RECONSIDER that supercombo!

An individually put together list of items will often give you a better deal for the price.  I have often put together several better-than-supercombo combinations before that offered better parts quality and performance for better price!


At $612 you are only geting a 965/550Ti build when this budget should be expected to gain you a 960T + HD 6870 build!

 

Seriously, look at how bad your combination is--that's a 5400RPM drive, far from ideal.  And the PSU probably does not even have the quality to handle a GPU (it's not one of the better ATNG-built Rosewill units) safely.

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$600 amd sim~build (Click to show)
Here's a amd sim~build on phenom 2 x4 960t + samsung 4gb ram + 500gb spinpoint F3 + 430W 80+ psu + 6870

cpu AMD Phenom II X4 960T Zosma 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core ~ $125 free shipping

pcb ASUS M5A78L-M LX PLUS AM3+ ~ $60 free shipping

ram Samsung 4GB DDR3 1600 Model MV-3V4G3/US ~ $24 free shipping

hdd Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ/ST500DM005 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" ~ $85 free shipping

odd Samsung 22X DVD Burner 22X SATA Model SH-222BB/BEBE - OEM ~ $16 free shipping

psu CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2 80+ ~ $45-$20MIR= $25 free shipping

atx XION XON-180 Meshed Black/Red Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ~ $35-$10MIR=$25 free shipping

gpu XFX HD-687A-ZHFC Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 ~ $170 - $30 MIR = $140 free shipping

os Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM ~ $100 free shipping

Total ~ $600 after rebate

based on xd_1771 foresee

the above build may unlock cpu to 6-core, has better psu on 80+ certified than generic combo psu on your build, has better videocard 6870 unlike your 550ti ~ 6790 performance, spinpoint F3 are fast hard disk compare to slow green ones...
Edited by xnuw - 4/3/12 at 10:51am
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Would he consider on going with sandy bridge instead? Go with the i3 then have room to upgrade to i5 later. I switched from amd to intel and now I can't look back. Intel's tech is way ahead
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i wouldn't go for anything less then this for future proof medium gaming pc :

Case 45$ shipped
CPU+Mobo 210$ shipped
RAM 48$ shipped (known to overclock to over 2000Mhz or to 1600 with very low timings)
PSU 45$ shipped , 25$ after rebate
GPU 140$ shipped (best bang for the buck right now if u look at the performance charts it toping 550,560,6850 and even 6870 imho)
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^ Okay, my earlier estimate totally forgot to consider the OS but it looks like it comes pretty close.  Just some flaws with that build include lower-end motherboard (4+1 phase GA-78LMT-S2P provides OC flexibility for similar price),  single channel memory (any dual channel kit will net better performance for lower price and RAM amount/expansion ability should not be a concern with any of these games and what tasks this PC is doing as none will ever make the system use above 4GB).


Some additional modifications should also improve the price.

 

Here is my final revision which combines my predictions with the configs above and modifications of my own:

 

cpu AMD Phenom II X4 960T Zosma 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core ~ $125 free shipping [NCIX, in stock]
pcb GA-78LMT-S2P AM3+ ~ $58.24 free shipping -$10MIR (ASK FOR A REV 3.1 or they will give you a 3+1 phase VRM board which is not as overclocking ready, and not even 125W TDP ready - i.e. cannot support processor unlock to 6 cores)
ram Wintec 2x2GB DDR3-1600 ~ $23 shipped - dual channel DDR3-1600 at less cost
hdd Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB HDD ~ $90 shipped [Amazon], same 1 year warranty as F3 and 2x space
odd ASUS 24X DVD-RW drive ~ $17 shipped [NCIX] (your suggested DVD drive does not ship free which drives up costs)
psu CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2 80+ ~ $45 shipped -$20MIR
matx Rosewill Ranger-M mATX mini tower case ~ $29 shipped [Newegg]
gpu HIS Radeon HD 7770 1GB Ghz edition - $140 shipped [Newegg]
os Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM ~ $87.46 shipped [DiscountMountain] - this is the same legitimate Windows 7 at less cost

 

Although the HD 7770 costs less than the 6870, I prefer to follow before-rebate prices - plus the 7770 is not actually far behind the 6870 and consumes 2x less power and outputs less heat too.  The 7750 already outperforms the GTX 550 Ti and the 7770 moreso.'

 

Whereas your supercombo costs $612 before $20 rebates and that is PLUS shipping (approx $14 for $626 shipped)

 

The combination I put together costs $615 shipped before $30 rebates and is consistently better with the exception of the hard drive space (however, to claim a hard drive with the same 1.5TB space but with lower 5900RPM speed costs only $10 more which puts the cost before shipping at $625 shipped - still less than the supercombo)   Compared to the original supercombo choice, this build features:

  • A significantly better, more reliable, and more acceptable PSU for the setup
  • More compact build (mATX) while maintaining cooling ability
  • 95W TDP quad core black edition processor, possibly unlockable to 6 cores
  • Motherboard that safely supports this provided VRM cooling (which is provided by the stock cooler and it is of course possible to expand)
  • Faster HDD
  • Much better graphics card performance-wise
  • Lower power consumption throughout

 

The option with the same-size HDD for $10 more does not feature the faster HDD but still features all the other benefits over the original parts choice.

 

This is why you shouldn't be going with supercombos.  They are put together for the lazy and with little research.  Easily, one can get much better, for the same price.  This happens pretty much every time.

 


Edited by xd_1771 - 4/3/12 at 6:55pm
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i3-2100 + 7750
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CPU: Intel Core i3-2100 3.1GHz Dual-Core Processor ($119.92 @ Compuvest)
Motherboard: ASRock H61M-VS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Value Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7750 1GB Video Card ($105.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 370 ATX Mid Tower Case ($33.26 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair 430W ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $565.11

With a little extra to spend on peripherals. thumb.gif

960T + 7750
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CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 960T Black 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($124.63 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($22.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7750 1GB Video Card ($105.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 370 ATX Mid Tower Case ($33.26 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair 430W ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $634.81

Over budget, and will only perform better than the i3-2100 build when overclocked, which is why you have a good board + cooler. IMO the i3-2100 is a much better buy. Especially if you can up the finances to get a 7770. thumb.gif

Here is a link to an i3-2100 + 7770 build <--My preferred build
Edited by Ironman517 - 4/3/12 at 6:04pm
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