You look on HWbot and the 7970 average OC on air is 1203mhz , not 1300 easy... but that's what were told huh...
So there we are, it's not 1300, it's not 1250, it's 1203.
I just think if people are going to say in a very casual manner things like " 680s don't overclock very good at all to compete with reference 7970s" and no one is going to say a word, I can say the opposite like all the reviews on the net have already proven, and no one should say a word either, huh.
But that's not what happens.
The 680 wins, but we can only say the 680 can't compete in overclocking... not the other way around, which is what we've really seen in this very thread.
So I will do what those who are "interpreting" the collection of the evidence do. I used the words I keep hearing and applied them correctly to the actual results instead of applying the opposite to the words after viewing the results.
I mean that's okay isn't it ? Can't we make our words actually match the charts and tests, instead of viewing them, counting games, then saying the opposite because we made an "interpretation" that ignores even a simple game win loss tie count ?
So when people stop typing in "the 680 can't compete in overclocking" and the like, I'll stop saying the opposite, which very definitely is actually what benchmarks have already shown. No I take that back, I won't stop saying it. They need to stop saying it. They aren't saying it right.
We were also told the 2G Vram is not enough, and a bunch of statements were shared that were incorrect along those lines so proof was brought in to settle the matter, and it was settled. Right after that, someone chimed in the exact opposite ignoring all evidence. Ok. Fine.
Now we're still being treated to this other claim that has been proven to be a major stretch in amd's favor, ignoring all evidence or at the very least worded improperly for effect or because we ignore evidence given already, or because we just say it because we can....
So I'll say it again.
We just saw a non reference 7970 lightning with added vrm power and overclockability unable to beat the reference overclocked GTX680.
So the special version 7970 is unable to compete with the reference 680.
A non reference 680 will trump the 7970 lightning easily. The 7970 is "unable to compete".
Oh my look at that.
We've been over this before... and I'm new, we just went over this. I guess various machinations of the data must be going on.
Look at the pretty chart - Batman is not a tie because you leave PhysX on the NV and off the amd. ( in the higher rez click the link)
So who really is unable to compete ?
If anyone is going to say unable to compete, unable to overclock well, unable blah blah blah in comparison - better mention the OC'ing leaves the 7970 LOSING and the 680 WINNING, right ?
How about " I think I can overclock the 7970 core a greater percentage than I can the 680 ". OH... okay.