Originally Posted by Mad Pistol
Originally Posted by SeanA
Nvidia hit a game winning Grand Slam home run with the 680, they cleared the park bleachers, the back fence, the scoreboard, and the street beyond and bounced it off the top of a tall building going still beyond the sight of the cameras defeating the 7970 home team on their own turf - that is most certainly my easily drawn conclusion from the evidences and personal experience provided.
I said earlier I see no advantage at all to the 7970 and that is still the case.
You do realize that the gap in performance between the HD 6970 and the GTX 580 was bigger than the one between the HD 7970 and the GTX 680, right?
No offense, but I don't think this is a grand slam for nvidia. The grand slam would have been if they had released GK100 and absolutely and utterly destroyed AMD by a good 30-40% on performance while consuming roughly the same amount of power. Instead, they release a card that is only 5-10% better. Yes, the GTX 680 uses less power, but it also has less memory and less compute performance, so it's sort of push and pull. Also, the GTX 680 struggles a little when you get to scenarios that use multiple monitors; the GTX doesn't win games that use over 2GB video memory, which could spell disaster for the card in multi-card, multi-monitor solutions. If AMD can get their crossfire drivers together, they would spank nvidia into next week for 3 monitor setups.
Clearly, nvidia has a great card. But a grand slam? You're being delusional if you believe this.
Yes the 580 gap was larger, and then we heard what - too expensive, housefires, wasted compute - can't keep my multi-card system cool, and on and on and on. Right ? Right. Abandoned gamers. I'm missing 3 or 4 critiques at least. So what were Nvidia's options ?
You seem to think, with more than a dash of delusion, that Nvidia could now abandon compute entirely, all the way to the top core, and not suffer incredible loss. Right, that's what you want, the top core, no compute in it, with 30-40 % better performance in an equal or lower power envelope... How delusional is that ?
I also guess you didn't read the benches as there's no struggling at 2G ram, in fact amd's chip is toast - unplayable frames - before the 680, in multi monitor - which didn't spell disaster - yet some delusion has you imagining it "might" or it's "struggling" as it WINS.
Nvidia did what it had to do - it came out with the grand slam home run on amd's turf. It beat them on chip size, performance, heat, and features (4 new ones we are treated to) - while amd is trying to - instead of losing hundreds of millions with no compute - to get some of the profit Nvidia has been enjoying - something Nvidia is not giving up by delivering GK110 devoid of compute power - which your scenario requires them to.
OK ? Realistically, Nvidia could have done no better - you're asking for money losing miracles, I'm not the one stretching it.
Like I said, Nvidia grand slammed on amd, period.
Edited by SeanA - 4/5/12 at 9:25pm