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Still trolling hard, keep up the good work thumb.gif

That's rude, dude. Stop it.

 

We still have no one showing the 7970 beating 680, and when people have claimed it, no such bench set is ever shown. Right ? The opposite appears, linked no less with pictures.

 

 The 7970 core at the same speed loses to the 680. Want the link ? You're getting it.

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/37209-geforce-gtx-680-vs-radeon-hd-7970-clocks/?page=10

 

When the 7970 is OC'ed "far more" as is constantly referred to, claims wildly flying, to it's limit, it still loses the bench set.

 

We heard the 680 caves because of 2G ram, but the opposite was actually shown as the 7970 caved, with linked PRO review.

 

 

There. Now you may thumb.gif to yourself.

 

So far, the 7970 has lost no matter what. It loses more benches, all the time. It must be brought to instability in OC, then it still loses. Now there's a good reason for you to thumb.gif. It  costs more, it has fewer features, and it's drivers are not as good. It's sucking down more electric dollars, and as far as compute, it's computing gaming worse. It's fans are louder/irritating as is usual for the amd cage.

 

I'll give it this as a plus - it's great fun furiously hacking away trying to surpass the 680, grab the dry ice or ln2 pot.

 

 

 

 

 

 


Edited by SeanA - 4/5/12 at 12:41am
post #92 of 155

Metro and Crysis... LOL , DE mlaa HaHa !~

 

Now Xoleras, that wasn't even a troll. It was a fail.

 

To answer your question, that you answered, confirming my formerly given answer, which your charts agree with, YES FOR REALSIES !

 

Thank you we all await the non existent bench set. Thank you very much.

 

I say it, you beg to disagree or differ, then you prove me correct, and you agree as well... adding in SLI vs CF.

 

Very kind of you sir.

 


 

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We just saw a non reference 7970 lightning with added vrm power and overclockability unable to beat the reference overclocked GTX680.
So the special version 7970 is unable to compete with the reference 680.

A non reference 680 will trump the 7970 lightning easily. The 7970 is "unable to compete".

For realsies? I dunno, I went from 7970 crossfire to 680 sli and they're pertty darn close - the 7970 wins a lot of games when they're at the max overclock. The max I could overclock my EVGAs were +100 offset. Also, 1070 is what reviewers are using as their overclock on the lightning which is weak. Most reference cards get far higher than that.

Basically it boils down to what games you're using. 7970 is faster in crysis 1/2/warhead, witcher 2, metro 2033 while the 680 is slightly faster in bf3, way faster in batman: AC and dirt 3.

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post #93 of 155
Here's SLI scaling as reported by Nvidia themselves:
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Bet they weren't using a SB @ 5Ghz though. Some of those 1080Ps would be higher if they did.
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We'll know soon enough. I have a couple near identical systems. With an i7-2700K at 4.9GHz, I have two watercooled HD 7970's in Crossfire. My two GTX 680's come in today, but they won't be watercooled until late next week. The system also has an i7-2700K at 4.9GHz, same RAM and PSU.
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Here's SLI scaling as reported by Nvidia themselves:

Bet they weren't using a SB @ 5Ghz though. Some of those 1080Ps would be higher if they did.

Some of those 1080P numbers are funny, what were they using a 80486?
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Some of those 1080P numbers are funny, what were they using a 80486?

I sure hope it wasn't an AMD processor, lol.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970_CPU_Scaling/
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None of them were overclocked. Funny how the 4.2Ghz turbo of BD couldn't compete with the old Nehalem @ 2.7.
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Here's SLI scaling as reported by Nvidia themselves:

Bet they weren't using a SB @ 5Ghz though. Some of those 1080Ps would be higher if they did.

Some of those 1080P numbers are funny, what were they using a 80486?


We don't know since Poopa Scoopa held back the link. Not sure of driver used either. Funny how that link isn't present.

 

Ok, so El Capitan is going to crank a couple pairs under water.

 

I don't blame people for saying the 7970, if cranked that much more, might do it, but where is the proof...

 

So far claims were made that were a bit overblown and that was shown.

 

I say proof better hurry because here comes the special edition 680's .... maybe a couple weeks before the chance is less likely for the 7970, and if the next 680 driver update does justice it will be that much more difficult. Then we have the OC learning curve on the 680's, as well as perhaps Afterburner /etc. unlocks.

 

Admittedly amd has more trouble with drivers and it's a new arch for them, so even though they had 2.5 months release time, they might pull a couple of rabbits out of their driver hats as well. So that could change things - people look at the paper stats and get that idea - fine it could happen, but we've all seen and heard that notional amd paper stats advantage before... again on the other hand it's a new core and they had employee cuts so it may take them a while.

 

 


Edited by SeanA - 4/5/12 at 1:50pm
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So you don't think there's any possibility of even partial cpu bottlenecking ?

 

Also I've seen amd cores needing more cpu, especially in CF.

 

 

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Perhaps if one has some massive multi core server board with a 16X slot it could push enough.
 

That has nothing to do with this situation.


 

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Nvidia hit a game winning Grand Slam home run with the 680, they cleared the park bleachers, the back fence, the scoreboard, and the street beyond and bounced it off the top of a tall building going still beyond the sight of the cameras defeating the 7970 home team on their own turf - that is most certainly my easily drawn conclusion from the evidences and personal experience provided.
I said earlier I see no advantage at all to the 7970 and that is still the case.

You do realize that the gap in performance between the HD 6970 and the GTX 580 was bigger than the one between the HD 7970 and the GTX 680, right?

No offense, but I don't think this is a grand slam for nvidia. The grand slam would have been if they had released GK100 and absolutely and utterly destroyed AMD by a good 30-40% on performance while consuming roughly the same amount of power. Instead, they release a card that is only 5-10% better. Yes, the GTX 680 uses less power, but it also has less memory and less compute performance, so it's sort of push and pull. Also, the GTX 680 struggles a little when you get to scenarios that use multiple monitors; the GTX doesn't win games that use over 2GB video memory, which could spell disaster for the card in multi-card, multi-monitor solutions. If AMD can get their crossfire drivers together, they would spank nvidia into next week for 3 monitor setups.

Clearly, nvidia has a great card. But a grand slam? You're being delusional if you believe this.


Yes the 580 gap was larger, and then we heard what - too expensive, housefires, wasted compute - can't keep my multi-card system cool, and on and on and on. Right ? Right. Abandoned gamers. I'm missing 3 or 4 critiques at least. So what were Nvidia's options ?

 

You seem to think, with more than a dash of delusion, that Nvidia could now abandon compute entirely, all the way to the top core, and not suffer incredible loss. Right, that's what you want, the top core, no compute in it, with 30-40 % better performance in an equal or lower power envelope... How delusional is that ?

 

I also guess you didn't read the benches as there's no struggling at 2G ram, in fact amd's chip is toast - unplayable frames - before the 680, in multi monitor - which didn't spell disaster - yet some delusion has you imagining it "might" or it's "struggling" as it WINS.

 

 Nvidia did what it had to do - it came out with the grand slam home run on amd's turf. It beat them on chip size, performance, heat, and features (4 new ones we are treated to) - while amd is trying to - instead of losing hundreds of millions with no compute - to get some of the profit Nvidia has been enjoying - something Nvidia is not giving up by delivering GK110 devoid of compute power - which your scenario requires them to.

 

OK ? Realistically, Nvidia could have done no better - you're asking for money losing miracles, I'm not the one stretching it.

 

Like I said, Nvidia grand slammed on amd, period.

 


Edited by SeanA - 4/5/12 at 9:25pm
post #100 of 155
It is a grand slam for nvidia, not for us but definatley for nivida. They are selling like hot cakes and cost them probally hardly anything to make compared to their flagship they will eventually bring out, was a really smart move what they did. Just beating the 7970 and making it a bit cheaper so not only have they got the best single gpu atm but they will being in alot more sales cause of the price point. If they only realesed the enthusiast one at 600-700 bucks straight away only the extremes would have got it and everyone in the middle would have got a 7970.
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