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What's the difference between XFX Radeon HD 6970, ASUS Radeon HD 6970, Gigabyte Radeon HD 6970 and MSI Radeon HD 6970?

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Hey guys,

I am doing some market research before I buy a new AMD/ATI graphics card for my 4 year old rig, and I have recently concluded that AMD/ATI Radeon HD 6970 is the right card for me.

However, when I was checking prices, I came across several Radeon HD 6970's, with different designators. Instead of "ATI/AMD" they were designated XFX, ASUS and GIGABYTE. Interestingly, these cards, though apparently the same model, had different appearance, different fan configurations, and
even different price.

Look here:

http://www.bestprice.gr/search?q=radeon+hd+6970

Asus Radeon HD 6970 2GB [EAH6970 DCII/2DI4S/2GD5]http://www.overclock.net/forums/threads/full_editor/posttype/newthread/fullpageid/67#

180

336.5 Euro, 2 fans.
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Gigabyte Radeon HD 6970 2GB GDDR5 [GV - R697OC - 2GD]

180

343.91 Euro, 3 fans
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XFX Radeon HD6970 2GB (HD - 697A - CNFC)

180

315.35 Euro, 1 fan (lol?)

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MSI Radeon HD6970 Lightning 2GB (R6970 Lightning)

180

364.54€=, 2 fans
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Aren't all these cards the same make & model? If yes, why are they selling them at diff prices and why do they carry diff designators? Also, why
some of those cards only have one fan, others have 2 fans and others have 3 fans? Lol? Isn't there a model standard?

In addition, XFX appears to have bad reputation for selling 2nd-hand/refurbished parts. Apparently, that's the reason theya re selling lower than everybody else.

Look here:
Quote:
Cons: I have sent back 3 out of 4 video cards in the last 3 years, Black editions their top of the line, caution a lot of their cards are refurbished.

Other Thoughts: Dont buy any XFX video cards, go with EVGA. I am a Network Security Administrator I deal with computer hardware all day, don't waste your money on XFX

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-150-517&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Keywords=%28keywords%29&Page=2#scrollFullInfo
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Also, here's my rig:

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2318604

MOBO GA-P35-DS4 http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=2745#ov

Do you guys find any reason why HD 6970 won't work with my rig? I have already got a 850W PSU installed BTW, and I am running Radeon HD 5830.

Thanks in advance for your input.
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There all non reference and so asus gigabyte n msi all change components on the pcb to cheaper parts and or upgrade to better rated parts out them the asus or the msi are what I would go for, see if you can find a cheap used reference 6950 2gb n unlock the shaders for 6970 performance.
You could also get the cheapest 6970 n do the antec cooler mod
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When a GPU line-up first comes out they are all "reference". This means that they are all almost exactly the same, except sold by different companies. The GPU inside though is the same. These are usually bought by either A. people that watercool their parts, or B. people who like to buy the latest and greatest.

Later, after a bit of time "non-reference" cards start to appear. These offer better cooling, with less noise. These would be the ones with multiple fans, and they are usually bigger. These come out a month or two after launch and are bought by people who don't watercool, and can wait to buy something.

The number of fans can make a difference. The XFX looks like a reference model with some stickers slapped on. That is not necessarily bad. It will be easier to find a waterblock for it if you watercool. The MSI, Gigabyte, and ASUS are NON-reference. These are normally quieter out of the box, and are also normally cooler. Sometimes a certain non reference model will overclock better. Not always.

All of these cards will have the same amount of performance though, as they are all 6970's.

Personally, I would take the Gigabyte. Warranty by serial number, similar price to ASUS, and a good cooler.
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I fully agree, mate. I am going to go for the Gigabyte one, although I had sworn never to buy anything from them
again after having to tolerate one of their fail MOBO's for four long years. However, I think that their cooling solution
(called Windforce) is the best there is, atm. 3 fans is just too good to pass by IMO.

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GO FOR hd 7850(CHEAPER)/7870(NEAR THE PRICE)
Edited by PontiacGTX - 4/3/12 at 12:49pm
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I fully agree, mate. I am going to go for the Gigabyte one, although I had sworn never to buy anything from them
again after having to tolerate one of their fail MOBO's for four long years. However, I think that their cooling solution
(called Windforce) is the best there is, atm. 3 fans is just too good to pass by IMO.
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That giga is a full custom pcb though, just keep that in mind.
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@Pontiac GTX: Mate, I don't think that my MOBO can work with any 7xxx card.

MOBO GA-P35-DS4 http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=2745#ov

@TSM 106: Would you care to elaborate? I am still learning, and I appreciate any and all opinions no matter how unpopular.
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why not?

PCIe1.0@16x=PCIe2.0@8x

and right now the difference between PCIe3.0 and 2.0 is 1 or 2% as maximum

go for HD 7850/7870 both are good and outperforms HD 6970(HD 7850 w/oc) and use less energy, make less heat, are cheaper, smaller

edit:

656

HD 7970 tested
Edited by PontiacGTX - 4/3/12 at 1:06pm
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the MSI 6970 lightning is the best of the best on the 6970 lineup. components are beefed up to the extreme for moar overclocking
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@Pontiac GTX: Mate, I don't think that my MOBO can work with any 7xxx card.
MOBO GA-P35-DS4 http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=2745#ov
@TSM 106: Would you care to elaborate? I am still learning, and I appreciate any and all opinions no matter how unpopular.
So by all means, do elaborate.

It's a completely custom design from AMD's reference, so you will never find a fullcover waterblock for it. Also, you better check/google if it is has volt unlocking or not. I've come across threads in the past where it was volt locked by Giga. With the Caymen generation (ie. 69xx) I still consider AMD's reference design with the volterra vrms to be the best.
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