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Ok so I have a Blu Ray player in my HTPC. It’s a Lite-On model that came with a Blu-Ray enabled OEM version of PowerDVD 8. Periodically, the software needs to be updated to support the latest codecs and encryption techniques on the newer Blu Ray discs.

So here is my question…. If stand alone blu ray players don’t need to be connected to the internet, how can they always play all the newer discs, while the software players have to be continually updated?
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Standalone blu ray players do need to be upgraded, and most of them have some sort of connectivity (wifi or ethernet) built in to do this. If they are not updated, newer discs will not play in them. It's more about copyright protection at this point than anything. It's one of the reasons why a PS3 was considered the Blu Ray player to buy a couple years ago because it was guaranteed to be able to update and always play the latest discs.
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Ah, thanks for the reply. I've always just used my HTPC BD player so I was unaware that stand alones had to be firmware updated as well. In googling it, I found something on the bluray.org site that said they didn't have to be connected. I guess if they aren't, then you'd have to send them in for firmware updates.
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Ah, thanks for the reply. I've always just used my HTPC BD player so I was unaware that stand alones had to be firmware updated as well. In googling it, I found something on the bluray.org site that said they didn't have to be connected. I guess if they aren't, then you'd have to send them in for firmware updates.

Most of them will have either Wi-Fi, Ethernet, or a USB port for updating firmware.

I just haven't jumped on the BD band wagon yet. My room mate has a laptop with a BD reader and we just make legal personal copies for our own household to watch on my HTPC. I still can't stand getting up to swap DVD's in and out, much rather the all digital age where everything is stored as a file, not some proprietary format on a disc.
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A Blu-Ray player could also be updated via disc, I believe smile.gif
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A Blu-Ray player could also be updated via disc, I believe smile.gif

Hmm, that sounds familiar, it makes complete sense that updated encryption codes could be included as a software package on the disc. It would just mean a little longer for the first time a new disc is loaded.
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Hmm, that sounds familiar, it makes complete sense that updated encryption codes could be included as a software package on the disc. It would just mean a little longer for the first time a new disc is loaded.

Yeah, well, I would suspect it to work the same as with USB. I can update my LG Blu-Ray player via USB with a little .bin file on the root of the flash drive, and then (when the machine is turned off) I plug in the drive, and it prompts me for an update via USB. Should be the same with a disc smile.gif
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I think that would require the firmware of each blu ray player to be similar, but they're not. The usb method works because you get the firmware from the manufacturer. I dont think you can update using a movie disc.
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Most of them will have either Wi-Fi, Ethernet, or a USB port for updating firmware.
I just haven't jumped on the BD band wagon yet. My room mate has a laptop with a BD reader and we just make legal personal copies for our own household to watch on my HTPC. I still can't stand getting up to swap DVD's in and out, much rather the all digital age where everything is stored as a file, not some proprietary format on a disc.

I'm not all the way in but I pick up the occasional BluRay and I gotta tell you the difference is night and day to a TV fanatic. The problem is most people aren't visual freaks like me. You're right about Ethernet - I've upgraded my firmware a couple of times and it's improved playback and added new apps.

Also, Blu-Ray discs have dropped considerably in price. The sweet spot for me is the combo packs. I just picked up Public Enemies Blu-Ray + DVD + Digital copy combo for $9.99 at BestBuy. With prices like that there's no reason NOT to dive in. smile.gif
    
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Most of them will have either Wi-Fi, Ethernet, or a USB port for updating firmware.
I just haven't jumped on the BD band wagon yet. My room mate has a laptop with a BD reader and we just make legal personal copies for our own household to watch on my HTPC. I still can't stand getting up to swap DVD's in and out, much rather the all digital age where everything is stored as a file, not some proprietary format on a disc.

I'm not all the way in but I pick up the occasional BluRay and I gotta tell you the difference is night and day to a TV fanatic. The problem is most people aren't visual freaks like me. You're right about Ethernet - I've upgraded my firmware a couple of times and it's improved playback and added new apps.

Also, Blu-Ray discs have dropped considerably in price. The sweet spot for me is the combo packs. I just picked up Public Enemies Blu-Ray + DVD + Digital copy combo for $9.99 at BestBuy. With prices like that there's no reason NOT to dive in. smile.gif

I just can't justify spending $50 on a BD player that at least supports 3D play back when I can just rip digital copies using my room mates laptop BD reader.
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