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My mind is spinning with all the info I've been trying to read over the past few days as I plan out my new build to replace my current sig rig. As you can see it's lasted me an insanely long time, and so a requirement for this new rig will be that the "heart" of it (i.e. the motherboard) last for a minimum of 4-5 years before I have to upgrade again. I will be of course upgrading the GPU every year or 2, but that's irrelevant to the question at hand.

With that said, am I looking at either a Socket 2011 - X79 - 3930k setup or a Socket 1155 - Z77 - 3770k setup? I've read that Ivy Bridge is the last iteration that will be using 1155. So with my requirement in mind, it seems that going with the 2011 setup would be better, right? I also read that when Ivy Bridge-E comes out towards the middle or end of next year it will be using 2011, which would make it a simple drop-in swap into my setup.

It seems that the answer would be clearly to go with 2011, but I was wondering what others think. The only reason I'm wavering is the following: (1) going with Ivy Bridge would be significantly cheaper over Sandy Bridge-E (2) I really really like the Asus Maximus V Formula motherboard, and (3) after reading this report it seems like Ivy Bridge will be much easier to reach my other requirement of this build of 5 GHz minimum speed on my CPU.

You left out the most important piece of information... What will you use the rig for mostly? Both 2011 and 1155 will last for the next few years with ease. Sure, Haswell and Skylake (is that the name... I'm not sure) will come out and be better than IB and SB-E. However, they certainly won't render IB or SB-E obsolete by any stretch of the imagination. To make the right decision, it comes down to what you do with your rig. 2011 is the best of the best, without question. However, whether you really need it or not is the question. 2011 is not cheap, uses more power and generates more heat. What good is having those extra cores if you'll never use them?
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You left out the most important piece of information... What will you use the rig for mostly? Both 2011 and 1155 will last for the next few years with ease. Sure, Haswell and Skylake (is that the name... I'm not sure) will come out and be better than IB and SB-E. However, they certainly won't render IB or SB-E obsolete by any stretch of the imagination. To make the right decision, it comes down to what you do with your rig. 2011 is the best of the best, without question. However, whether you really need it or not is the question. 2011 is not cheap, uses more power and generates more heat. What good is having those extra cores if you'll never use them?

this ^^^ you must ask yourself..
other things IB-E will be around the same price as SB-E, maybe slightly more if they bring out 8c/16t monsters. technically 2011 will last longer as yes next year the IB-E will be released. But both sockets will be will last a good few years at least..
Ivy bridge will be the last 1155 socket CPU, haswell being new microarchitecture usually means there is a socket change an it will be on 1150 socket and this is usually the case due to intel's tick tock model

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Tick-Tock
 
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You left out the most important piece of information... What will you use the rig for mostly? Both 2011 and 1155 will last for the next few years with ease. Sure, Haswell and Skylake (is that the name... I'm not sure) will come out and be better than IB and SB-E. However, they certainly won't render IB or SB-E obsolete by any stretch of the imagination. To make the right decision, it comes down to what you do with your rig. 2011 is the best of the best, without question. However, whether you really need it or not is the question. 2011 is not cheap, uses more power and generates more heat. What good is having those extra cores if you'll never use them?

Didn't want to mention it as I figured the response would be "i5 2500k or bust" as I tend to see everywhere, but I will be doing primarily heavy gaming with multiplayer and games that benefit from lots of CPU power (Supreme Commander, GTA IV, Alan Wake, possibly BF3, to name a few) while having things running in the background. As well as some video and BluRay encoding.

Right now I'm leaning towards the 3930k setup, because I can't ignore that Ivy Bridge-E is coming and the octocore CPUs it will bring, along with the quad channel memory which should prove valuable when running a RamCache. But at the same time the 3770k will use significantly less power and produce less heat, which means I'll be able to run the fans on the radiator slower. ARGH I CAN'T DECIDE! headscratch.gif
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Didn't want to mention it as I figured the response would be "i5 2500k or bust" as I tend to see everywhere, but I will be doing primarily heavy gaming with multiplayer and games that benefit from lots of CPU power (Supreme Commander, GTA IV, Alan Wake, possibly BF3, to name a few) while having things running in the background. As well as some video and BluRay encoding.
Right now I'm leaning towards the 3930k setup, because I can't ignore that Ivy Bridge-E is coming and the octocore CPUs it will bring, along with the quad channel memory which should prove valuable when running a RamCache. But at the same time the 3770k will use significantly less power and produce less heat, which means I'll be able to run the fans on the radiator slower. ARGH I CAN'T DECIDE! headscratch.gif

make it easy for you, go the SB-E and soon thier should be a next round of x79 boards being released sometime after IB i here smile.gif
 
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i would go for the 3930k if money allows. both sockets will last long.
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make it easy for you, go the SB-E and soon thier should be a next round of x79 boards being released sometime after IB i here smile.gif

What?!? There's going to be new x79 boards coming out? proof.gif

Why though? New specs or features or something?
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i would go for the 3930k if money allows. both sockets will last long.

Yea it's looking that way to be honest, as the price difference is not going to be as large as I expected it would be. Plus, I realized I forgot about including emulators in my list, as certain ones need a ton of CPU power like PCSX2 and Dolphin (oh god can't wait to play Skyward Sword in full 1080p).
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Not sure how fast the Next gen will be but by the time Games start to use 6 Core CPU properly 3930K will be like Q6600 now. 2500K smokes it and Cheaper.
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What?!? There's going to be new x79 boards coming out? proof.gif
Why though? New specs or features or something?

just what i read here and sin0822 is well regarded in his intel knowledge and benching but the borads are like newer revisions IMO smile.gif
http://www.overclock.net/t/1238184/with-ivy-bridge-e-being-pushed-back-will-it-bring-a-new-wave-of-2011-mobos
 
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just what i read here and sin0822 is well regarded in his intel knowledge and benching but the borads are like newer revisions IMO smile.gif
http://www.overclock.net/t/1238184/with-ivy-bridge-e-being-pushed-back-will-it-bring-a-new-wave-of-2011-mobos

Aww damn it. That throws a wrench in the works cause now I gotta wait to see those. Ugh.

Well I suppose waiting for the new 2011 boards isn't too bad, as I want to see how the non-reference GTX 680s turn out.
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