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You have a VERY nice build thumb.gif
I really like the 800D case.
For those that like an illuminated midpanel but lack the skill: http://www.coldzero.eu/category.php?id_category=24
Coldzero sells them for the 800D and the TJ07 for about 40-45 euros (pics are in the TJ07 section). They can make them for any case btw and will also do custom holes in advance for hoses and wiring.

Thanks!

I Sprung A LEAK... and Fan Extensions

Just wanted to post a mini-update, along with some crappy findings...
I finished wiring all my fan extensions that I will be using with my fans and the controllers. All have been cut to the exact length, sleeved, tested and work great.

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I also decided to post a picture of some of my wiring diagrams that I have done up to help me keep my thoughts straight while making my own cables. Shows how I wired illuminated vandal switches, my light panel, led strip, reservoir LEDs, and fan extensions along with RPM reducers which I may use on the fans not attached to radiators.

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So with everything wired up, I decided to do a leak test. Everything was looking great untill... LEAK!! And not just a leak requiring a tightening of a fitting, it was a leak in the seam of my XSPC reservoir.

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To add inslut to injury, I pulled the res out, and had it sitting on my work bench. My son came in behind me, and managed to pull it onto the cement floor, further cracking the unit. mad.gif
I was able to put it back together with my liquid acrylic cement, and fill the seam. Also ran an additional leak test with just the res to see what would happen.

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It seemed to fix the leak, but at this point, I am going to toss this reservoir, since I can't really trust it for long term use. Placed an order for a new model today, so stay tuned for updates once it arrives.
    
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This is one nice build. You have very good skills and i love the light up panel. Great work my friend

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that sucks about your res leaking.. and then the kid makin it worse. That's why the woman's son isn't allowed in my office/computer room. No Touchy! rolleyes.gif
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This is one nice build. You have very good skills and i love the light up panel. Great work my friend
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that sucks about your res leaking.. and then the kid makin it worse. That's why the woman's son isn't allowed in my office/computer room. No Touchy! rolleyes.gif

I love my kids to death (have 3 under the age of 4), but HATE when the someone.. **cough** Wife **cough** leaves the door unlocked so they can sneak in to my "shop" or home office. My daughter knows to keep her hands away, but my son is just as curious and inquisitive as I was at that age, and ends up breaking a lot of my stuff just because he hasn't learned how to be gentle with anything.

But after last night I think my wife will be better about locking the doors in the basement work room and our office when I'm not home. He got to her PC and managed to pick off about 5 of the keys from her fancy new backlit Logitech Keyboard. Three of them I was able to put back on, but the clips on the other two were broken off. That will teach her to keep the door locked tongue.gif

Having some fun playing around with the Aquasuite software while I wait for my new reservoir to arrive. I must say, it was a bit confusing at first, but now that I have the hang of it, it truly is a powerful monitoring / control tool. I have been taking screen shots, and will post a walk-thought of how I set things up. I then plan to do the same for the Corsair Link for comparison purposes. biggrin.gif
    
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Ok, it is review time. biggrin.gif
I have two control systems that I have had a chance to play with for the last few days. I will first post my review for the Corsair Link Cooling & Lighting Kit, followed by the AquaComputer Aquaero 5 LT. Each contains a video walk-through showing the components and the software, followed by more detailed screen captures of the various setup screens of the software. And here we go...

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Click on the link below to launch a YouTube video I made that shows both the hardware and software in action.
Video - Corsair Link Cooling & Lighting Kit Overview

The Corsair Link Kit comes in to variants. The Basic Cooling kit which comes will all that is necessary to control your fans. Then there is the Cooling & Lighting kit which controls fans and comes with a Lighting Node which controls the RBG LED lighting strips.
Both kits include one (1) Controller Node which has 5 fan connectors, and a few temperature sensor plugin locations. Each fan channel can support up to 2 amps, and the node can support a maximum of 4 amps total across all channels. That being said, if someone is wanting to control both fans, and a liquid cooling pump, they would most likely have to purchase a second Control Node as the single one would be quickly maxed out with multiple fans and pumps.


When first starting up the Corsiar Link Software, the first thing that needs to be done is update the firmware for the various components. This was a necessary step for me because before the firmware update, my fans wouldn't change from spinning at 100% at all times.

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Here is an overview of the various sensors and readings that can be seen within the software. As shown in the above video, you can choose from a variety of computer cases and overlay the sensor data on top of your component locations. Its is all drag and drop at this point, and you can also easily change the name of any sensor data shown on this screen for better customization.

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Next up we have the "Groups" screen. This is where you make connections from sensor data to fan (or pump) control. This is also drag and drop, and every easy to configure.

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There is also a "Graphs" section that can show any of the sensor data listed on the Overview page. It is very basic, and doesn't offer much as far as customization goes of colors or graph size.

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Once all the grouping is set up between sensor data and fans, we can move on to taking more control of how the fans will operate in our system. The first bank of options is shown below. They are pre-defined control curves, and the names are pretty self expanitory. Below them are the "User Defined" settings including custom control curves. These are easy to set up, and seem to work just fine.

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As mentioned earlier, I have the Link Kit with the Lighting Module, so I thought I would show the different LED configuration options. More detail about these options and how they work can be seen in the above video.

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Ok, so that is the Corsair Link Kit. Very capable software. Next up I will review the AuqaComputer system I have, and compare the two in a future post... after I get some needed sleep. Look for it tomorrow night.


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And now its time for a similar walk-through for the AquaComputer Aquaero 5 LT.

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Click on the link below to launch a YouTube video I made that shows both the hardware and software in action.

Video - AquaComputer AqauSuite 2012, Aquaero 5, and PowerAdjust 2 Overview

AquaComputers makes a variety of prodtucts that all communicate together via the Aquasuite software. They have flow sensors, pumps, radiators, reservoirs, cpu blocks, etc. I have the main controller unit, the Aquaero 5 LT, and two PowerAdjust 2 modules to control my MCP355 Pumps.

The Aqauero 5 can be pushed up to a maximum of 1.65 amps per channel (20 watts) or 5 amps total. AquaComputer designed the output based on the temperature of the fan amps themselves to prevent damage. The cooler you keep them the closer to 1.65 amps they will push. For this reason, I installed a larger heatsink on my Aquaero, to keep things nice and cool and retain the ability to limit the RPMs as to keep things quiet when maximum performance isn't needed.

This will vary greatly depending on the fans you have, but 1.65amps is enough to run roughly 20x fans at 100%. However, the load and heat increase as you dial down the RPM's so the real limit is probably closer to 12 - 15 fans, fewer if you use higher amperage units. This is an amazing amount of fans to control off a single channel and is also enough juice to run a water pump such as the MCP355 or D5.

Even though it is possible to run a pump off one of the fan channels, it is better to use the Poweradjust 2 due to the high start up power draw of these pumps. Each PowerAdjust2 also has a large heatsink to keep the unit cool when you lower the speed of the pump. If you want to just run a pump at 100% all the time, you could probably just add it to one of the fan channels on the Aquaero 5. But if you do a lot of power based throttling like me, it is better to use the Poweradjust 2 for the pumps, and keep the fans on the Aquaero just to be safe. So, that is how I have set the hardware up. Lets jump into the software now.

When first opening up AquaSuite 2012, go the the settings tab to set up your basic units, and language. You can choose what units to use for temps, and flow measurements. This is also where you configure the software's startup options.

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Next head over to the System tab to make sure you are running the most current firmware for your hardware components.

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Now we can jump to the Overview page where you can set up how you would like to view the data that Aquasuite (and Open Hardware Monitor as mentioned in the above video). You can choose what data points you want displayed, and add graphs to monitor temps, flow rates, RPMs, ect. You have the ability to customize the look of all the items on this page (colors, fonts, opacity, etc.) But what you see below is just using the default look. You can set this page to launch automatically when Windows starts so you can monitor everything from a glance.

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This is also a view of another Overview page, but this one has a picture of my case, with the various temp and RPM boxes placed over the hardware components in my system. Its a neat idea, but I personally think it looks a bit too cluttered. I prefer the look of the above page instead.

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Next up is the Sensors Page. Here you will see the temps that Aquasutie brings to the table via physical temp sensors (like my in-line temp sensor in my loop), along with software sensors from 3rd party programs like Open Hardware Monitor or AIDA64. You can modify the names of the various sensors to better suite your needs.

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Now we will take a look at the Fan Setup tab. Here you can name your fan banks, set minimum / Maximum RPM levels, and a ton of other stuff that I haven't had a chance to play with yet. biggrin.gif

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On the same page you can see that my pumps are also visible. This is because they are connected in the following manner:
Aquero 5 HighSpeed Aquabus connector -> PA2 Aquabus connector 1 / PA2 Aquabus connector 2 -> PA2 Aquabus connector 1
So with that setup, I have 1 pump on each PA2, and they are can both be controlled via the Aquaero 5 in Aquasuite. The PowerAdjust 2 is a controller which was optimized for the use with a DDC pump (or anything else with a constant load of up to 25W at 12V.) The maximum surge current can go up to 48W so you have enough reserves for the massive starting current that some pumps or fans generate. A configurable startboost allows you to make sure that for example a pump has enough time to spin-up before it is getting slowed down by the controller. This Startboost setting can be seen in the image below.

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Now we get into the really cool part of the Aquasuite 2012 software... Controller Curves.
With custom controller curves, you can make it so your system runs silent when high power isn't needed, and rev up to 100% when you need that kind of power. I have set up 3 different curves so far, and they are working extremely well. When my system first boots up, it is near silent, yet everything stays nice and cool. My curves don't look "pretty" at the moment as I haven't had much time to really tweak them, but at this point they are very functional. Once I get everything overclocked, I may have to adjust the temperature variants of these curves.

Controller Curve 01 - CPU Temp controls the 3 fans on the top radiator
Controller Curve 02 - GPU Temp controls the 4 fans on the bottom radiaor
Controller Curve 03 - Liquid Temp controls the speed of my pumps

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There are a lot of other tabs in the AquaSuite 2012 software, but I either haven't had a need for them yet, or I don't own components that will register with those pages (Aquacomputer pumps for example). Overall, I am very pleased with the Aquacomputer components and the new software to control them. In the past my system was near silent except for the pumps. Now even the pumps are silent during basic computing tasks.

AquaComputer Aquaero 5 vs Corsiar Link Kit

AquaComputer Pros
  • Extreme Customization and Options
  • Multiple Components available for liquid cooling systems
  • Easy Hardware installation
  • Works with most fans and pumps currently on the market
  • Controller Curves
  • Software seems stable and is feature rich
  • Build Quality
  • 4 Fan Connectors (Upgradable To 10)
  • Optimized for liquid cooling systems

AquaComputer Cons
  • Much of the documentation is only in German (English Forum is a big help)
  • Setup isn't as straightforward as could be
  • Cost (for some)


Corsair Link Pros
  • Easy Hardware installation
  • Controller Curves
  • Software is easy to setup and use
  • Build Quality
  • 5 Fan Connectors (Upgradable with more Control Nodes)
  • Can read CPU & GPU temps on its own (doesn't require 3rd party programs)
  • Advanced RGB LED lighting control

Corsair Link Cons
  • Customization and options not as advanced as competition
  • Not really made for liquid cooling (unless using self contained Corsair cooling products)
  • Fairly new software, can be buggy at times


I have enjoyed taking time to use both units, but after going through various scenarios with my hardware, I will be using the AquaComputer products to control my system components from this point on. Both kits offer their advantages, but the Aquaero 5 fits my needs better at this time.

I received my Koolance reservoir to replace the leaking XSPC one, so working on getting that installed soon. More pictures will follow.


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Ya, having a hard time finding the color I want in stock at the moment. PM sent to Mayhem, maybe he can help me out. thumb.gif

Hes is a nice guy and hard work and hes have been around here with our community giving support for all of us. hes is like Neil's from MDPC he take care of the stuff him self. thumb.gif
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Thanks!
Well, the Durelene Tubing from Sidewinder has arrived. Looks to bend pretty well without kinking. I'm going to keep my blue tubing around just in case I decide to switch back at some point.
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Still trying to get a hold of the Mayhem Pastel in Blue Berry color. I sent an email to Mayhem over a week ago asking where to get the stuff here in the US (besides PPCs which is currently out of stock), but no response yet. frown.gif
Maybe more stores will have it in stock next week? If not, I will just get Ice Dragon, and add dye to my liking til I get the right color blue.
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Nice to see you with the Durelene in this Nice build thumb.gif , you will never regret this tubing this is the best choice you made. by the way just keep the Primoflex around in case any emergency. you can use to drain your loop for this Primoflex is good smile.gif take a quick pick in my Mayhems review to see some nice colors. the blue you showed in couple post back is nice.

hope we can see some nice HD pictures in the end. specialty in the front page when you done with your build.

+Rep for great work and i do love the plaxy under the VGA lighted up.
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Exiting News... I pulled an all-nighter and this morning around 4:30AM, I officially finished my Build!! biggrin.gif


Received my new Koolance RP-401X2 yesterday to replace my leaking XSPC unit. I really like the look and quality of this new reservoir.

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I had to cut the feet off of my Switech MCP355 pumps for them to work with this Res/Pump combo. Once installed they have a lot of head pressure and are pretty quiet.

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I then proceeded to bled the entire loop of air bubbles and everything is running cool and quiet. I am going to work on getting some really good photos of the case, and cable management. Hope to have them posted by this weekend. Stay tuned. thumb.gif


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Nice to see you with the Durelene in this Nice build thumb.gif , you will never regret this tubing this is the best choice you made. by the way just keep the Primoflex around in case any emergency. you can use to drain your loop for this Primoflex is good smile.gif take a quick pick in my Mayhems review to see some nice colors. the blue you showed in couple post back is nice.
hope we can see some nice HD pictures in the end. specialty in the front page when you done with your build.
+Rep for great work and i do love the plaxy under the VGA lighted up.


Thanks! I am really liking the Durealen tubing so far. I added the Mayhem Pastel liquid last night... and it looks incredible. Better than I had hoped for.

Don't worry, the HD "Photo Shoot" will happen soon.
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Exiting News... I pulled an all-nighter and this morning around 4:30AM, I officially finished my Build!! biggrin.gif
Received my new Koolance RP-401X2 yesterday to replace my leaking XSPC unit. I really like the look and quality of this new reservoir. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show) I had to cut the feet off of my Switech MCP355 pumps for them to work with this Res/Pump combo. Once installed they have a lot of head pressure and are pretty quiet. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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I then proceeded to bled the entire loop of air bubbles and everything is running cool and quiet. I am going to work on getting some really good photos of the case, and cable management. Hope to have them posted by this weekend. Stay tuned. thumb.gif
Thanks! I am really liking the Durealen tubing so far. I added the Mayhem Pastel liquid last night... and it looks incredible. Better than I had hoped for.
Don't worry, the HD "Photo Shoot" will happen soon.


Nice to hear that. i will going to keep my eyes on it wheee.gif great work thumb.gif
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that a single 5 1/4 bay res with dual pumps? i like.. thumb.gif
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