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Why can't you buy used?

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I mentioned it for two reasons: first, since it's a computer at work I wasn't sure if you could overclock it, so the extra 60 Mhz clockspeed with the faster FSB might be worth the extra five bucks, second because, in case you want to overclock, some people claim they have difficulty overclocking the 800 Mhz FSB 45 nm Pentium Dual Cores because of a lower FSB wall, that is why I mentioned the E6600, but then again, it may be a question of bad luck, some CPUs overclock better than others and the best ones are sold as Pentium E6xxx series or Core 2 Duo E7xxx series.
In any case, I managed to overclock the E5300 that I have in my Media Center from 2.6 Ghz to 3 Ghz with a 1200 Mhz FSB at stock voltage on a Gigabyte EP43-DS3, so the EP45-UD3L (the board in my sig is almost the same, it's the EP45-UD3LR, which means it has the ICH10R instead of the ICH10) should do even better.
Hmmm... that doesn't make sense. A lower stock FSB means MORE room for overclocking, I would think!

Take my E6300 for instance. It had a FSB of 800mhz, and I overclocked it to 1235mhz IIRC to get my 100% overclock. I was limited by the FSB speed. If it had a higher multi (therefore lower FSB), I could have gone higher.

What am I missing?

Regardless, I can do some moderator overclocking, it just has to be rock stable without me running prime95 or anything (no time to do that). So, I have to set it up with settings that I KNOW will work. Likely, I'll just leave it alone for now without overclocking.

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Why can't you buy used?
Because the company doesn't want to take that kind of risk with their own money. I need to buy something that will for sure work, and that doesn't have any risk of me getting scammed.
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Originally Posted by SgtSpike View Post

Hmmm... that doesn't make sense. A lower stock FSB means MORE room for overclocking, I would think!
Take my E6300 for instance. It had a FSB of 800mhz, and I overclocked it to 1235mhz IIRC to get my 100% overclock. I was limited by the FSB speed. If it had a higher multi (therefore lower FSB), I could have gone higher.
What am I missing?
Regardless, I can do some moderator overclocking, it just has to be rock stable without me running prime95 or anything (no time to do that). So, I have to set it up with settings that I KNOW will work. Likely, I'll just leave it alone for now without overclocking.
Because the company doesn't want to take that kind of risk with their own money. I need to buy something that will for sure work, and that doesn't have any risk of me getting scammed.

I thought the same too, but there are many forum posts talking about Pentium E5xxx series having a lower FSB wall than more expensive CPUs.

Look here:

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=629580

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=29004528

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/273147-10-pentium-dual-e5x00-overclock-voltages

http://www.overclock.net/t/636843/my-e5300-has-an-fsb-wall-of-350mhz/0_30

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=324423


Some people in these threads (not always the OP) claim they could achieve higher FSBs on their motherboards with other chips but not these Pentium Dual Cores.

In any case, given the fact that these CPUs have a high multiplier and the FSB wall is not that low, you can still get some pretty good overclocks, so it shouldn't be an issue, especially since you'll not be doing extreme overclocks with your work PC hehehe.


Just a small correction: your Core 2 Duo has a 1066 Mhz FSB.
Edited by tpi2007 - 4/5/12 at 6:21pm
 
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Why can't you buy used?

OOPS I see already answered.

Yea that pretty much limits you.
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You can get an OEM E5800 for $63.89 shipped after code hop2it from Superbiiz. I assume you could reuse the old cooler but if not you can get the retail E5700 for the same price with the code: link. I've purchased a few times from them before and they are a very reputable etailer, they used to be called eWiz.
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You can get an OEM E5800 for $63.89 shipped after code hop2it from Superbiiz. I assume you could reuse the old cooler but if not you can get the retail E5700 for the same price with the code: link. I've purchased a few times from them before and they are a very reputable etailer, they used to be called eWiz.
Ah, darn, already have the 5700 on order! Oh well... smile.gif
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