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Because ubuntu is easy, laid out, and its for nooby linux users who need a free os. Debian, fedora, and suse are much mroe advanced.Thats where you really learn.
What do you mean "much more advance"? Also, what about "Thats where you really learn"? I have learned tuns with Ubuntu.

The sense I get from reading your posts is that you think Ubuntu does not alow you to do things that other "more advanced" distros alow. Please explain what these things are, as I have not found them yet
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What do you mean "much more advance"? Also, what about "Thats where you really learn"? I have learned tuns with Ubuntu.

The sense I get from reading your posts is that you think Ubuntu does not alow you to do things that other "more advanced" distros alow. Please explain what these things are, as I have not found them yet
It's obviously because you're using Ubuntu that you hve not been able to find these "more advanced" features .
Honestly, the claims that Ubuntu and the like are restrictive and don't allow you to learn Linux are a bunch of crap. It's still Linux, it just has the extra advantage of being able to go all automatic on you. If anything, distros like Ubuntu make the transition from Windows an easier ordeal, which in the long run will increase the number of Linux users over time.
I can't tell you how many people I have meet that gave up on Linux because they found it hard. Why do some Linux users insist on chasing these particular individuals away? Sure, they may not be as smart as you or may not have the same interest in OS development as some hardcore users do, but they are still computer users looking for a Windows alternative and somewhat willing to learn new things. Ubuntu is embracing these Linux rejects and it's getting flamed for it.
For a long time there has been a void between Windows and Linux; it's only a matter of time until something filled up that void, and that something is Ubuntu. Yet, it is still Linux and not some mutated half-breed.
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Ubuntu is the one i think i've decided on as my first distro when i build project tsunami... hopefully it will act as a 'stepping stone' as everyone says. into gentoo or something once i learn what i'm doing
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Fedora and SuSE are easy to use distros to. They will let you learn a bit know though then Ubuntu would and make the jump to Gentoo smoother. With Gentoo you will learn a lot about linux. I'd recommend skipping the Gentoo LiveCD when ever that point comes. You'll only learn more in the end, just with another headach or two. The Gentoo Live cd is only made to make Gentoo faster to install not easier, plus its still buggy I guess.

I agree with what Melcar said.
I think Ubuntu is great, for those people that want to move away from windows and just want another OS to use. I think Fedora or SuSE is a better choice for someone though that acually wants to learn some stuff about the Linux OS.
For all new Linux users though there is one thing that you have to remember, you have used Windows for X number of years, then you go to Linux for a week. You cannot says it is to hard after only a week. I'm sure that you didn't become this Window's Guru after a week, so give Linux a far shot. You can do some much with Linux its sweet, but don't go all in at once. Thats just a spell for dissaster and giving up. I just want to stress giving it time. Soon you will find you know much more than you thought you originaly did.
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i dont understand why everyone claims ubuntu is for new users.. really its a steady os thats designed for people with a small amount of linux knowledge a new user will be lost when they had to drop to a console to do this or change that.. really the only automatic feature i see is the auto update which is great almost all distros have some form of automated install and other distros come with more stuff bundled up and installed so that new users can start using their stuff right away.. as for ubuntu ill tell ya why i picked it.. it was a fast download and it supported all my hardware something which redhat or FC has yet to do on any of my systems.. it gets most but not all.. the support community has been greater then what ive seen most other places.. and i really dont see anything you can do with other distros that i couldnt do with ubuntu..
    
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i dont understand why everyone claims ubuntu is for new users.. really its a steady os thats designed for people with a small amount of linux knowledge a new user will be lost when they had to drop to a console to do this or change that.. really the only automatic feature i see is the auto update which is great almost all distros have some form of automated install and other distros come with more stuff bundled up and installed so that new users can start using their stuff right away.. as for ubuntu ill tell ya why i picked it.. it was a fast download and it supported all my hardware something which redhat or FC has yet to do on any of my systems.. it gets most but not all.. the support community has been greater then what ive seen most other places.. and i really dont see anything you can do with other distros that i couldnt do with ubuntu..
And that is why it's perfect for new users. If anything, it gives you a moral boost.
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IMO three great things about Ubuntu:
1. Great hardware support
2. Great Forms/community (I'm a member and I don't even use Ubuntu!!)
3. Easy to get started with. Requires you to know....nothing(thats a good thing)

I mean lets face it, Ubuntu has become HUGH. It has been the most popular distro for awhile now. Even old school guru's use it, that leaves something to be said about Ubuntu. Ubuntu = world domination, its just a matter of time.
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yes i agree with the statments that its good for new users to install on but its not as user friendly as say some other distros.. personally i would agree with the thread i dont understand all the hate either .. i recomend it to people all the time.. and ive jumped ship right now im 100 percent linux .. hell read my sig it says it all and its thanks to ubuntu
    
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UBUNTU IS the shiz man.
    
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Originally Posted by dangerousHobo
IMO three great things about Ubuntu:
1. Great hardware support
2. Great Forms/community (I'm a member and I don't even use Ubuntu!!)
3. Easy to get started with. Requires you to know....nothing(thats a good thing)

I mean lets face it, Ubuntu has become HUGH. It has been the most popular distro for awhile now. Even old school guru's use it, that leaves something to be said about Ubuntu. Ubuntu = world domination, its just a matter of time.
Not really. I have had to configure Ubuntu just as much as Fedora Core 5 or SUSE 10.1. The main reason I am using Ubuntu is because it supports all my hardware out of the box, including my wireless card, and it even has an on-screen display for when I change the volume (I'm on my lappy).

Ubuntu is the best free OS for new Linux users, but you need to know what your doing. If your are brand-spanking new to Linux, and can spend $50, I would say get Mandriva 2007. That comes with manuals and **** like that.

Here is the question I would really like to get answered: Why are you all saying Ubuntu is great, but you should move up to a better OS like Fedora Core, SUSE or Gentoo? What can you do with them that you can do with Ubuntu? So far there has been nothing I have read about that Ubuntu has not let me do.
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