PS4 Vs Xbox 720 - Page 2

Sega would probably disagree with the idea that the system that launches first wins. See: Saturn, Dreamcast. But between these two, yeah, that may be the deciding factor.

I stay away from Xbox because I'm not interested in Kinect or shooters and that's what Xbox is all about. PS4 is most likely going to have the variety, just like the PS3. JRPGs, platforming adventure, racing...

Besides, I've been a PlayStation gamer since PS1.

I know ALOT about this subject. Much too much to get into here. But I will say just a few things here.


1.) The Console market is trending downward - meaning its near dead. IOS games, and Downloadable PC titles are all the rage at the moment. Due to costs of development and lack of software to support them, neither manufacturer will produce a product competative with PC's of today, let alone of 2013.

2.) Sony most likely will NOT call their next console the PS4. The PlasyStation brand still hold stigma among console users, thanks to the terrible reception of the Playstation 3, and the botched Playstation 3D Display release. It has been revealed that IF sony does release a sucessor to the Playstation 3, it will follow in the PS Vita's foot-steps, with a ubiquous name. A few major publications site that Sony is currently playing with the idea of calling the their next console the Sony ORBIOUS. ...VITA...ORBIOUS...make sense?

3.) Notice I put 'IF' Sony releases a sucessor to the PS3? I wrote that because; A.) Microsoft released the XBOX 360 almost 2 years earlier than Sony did the PS3, not to meantion the PS3 took almost 2 more years, many price drops, and a total console redesign, to really take off. Given this, the xbox has had ALOT of time to age, and therego Microsoft has been playing with the idea of a XBOX 720/3/NEXT since 2008. Sony on the other hand still has a relatively young console on there hands, so I highly doubt they have even began to consider even thinking about a PS4 until this last year....far too short a period of time to build a product (which generally takes 3-4 years).
B.) Sony has seen terrible sales in the US since the release of the PS3, and rumours are abound that Sony is considering following Microsofts suit - Microsoft which last year, due to terrible sales in Japan, Microsoft actually stopped selling its' XBOX's in Japan all together! - by slowly withdrawling from Western Markets, and restructuring itself as a 'Japanese only' platform, to survive (like NEO GEO & Wonder Swan). And if this happenes, I highly doubt Sony will worry about releasing a NEW Playstation, when they know that for the next 5-10 years they can just re-release new revisions of the PS3. You see, Japanese gamers are very different than 'Western Gamers', they famously have no intrest in better graphics, and they put little enphasis on multiplayer games outside of WOW and Monster Hunter, and they could honestly care less about PSN.
C.) Here's the BIG reason: Sony, like Microsoft is NOT just a console manufacturer - consoles play just a small part of Sonys' overall business. Well, over the last two years Sony has litterally lost Billions of dollars in sales from poor decisions and horrible managment. Hell, a few months ago Sony's long standing President stepped down after years of losses. And last month due to terrible Q1 sales on the PS3 in the West, Sonys NEW President said that he was planning on restructuring the future of the Game side of their business. That they were reducting there console manurfacturing compacity and 're-thinking' the way they approched the game industry. Then he announced he was fireing over 1000 employees who build PS3s, and then he laying off 70 of the 100 people who are working on the development of the next Playstation. So just think for a moment; If Sony just recently started working on the PS4 - which we know would have taken them till 2014 to finish - how long do you think It'll take them now that they only have 30% of the people they need working on it? My opionion is this: Sont has given up on the PS4, and it'll never happen. If they ever did release one, it still wouldnt be til 2014 (a year after the next XBOX) and I guarentee it'll be a ****ty rush-job, that over heats and is a sloppy comprised mess of PC parts: Quad core, mid range-Nvidia GPU, larger SDD.

4.) Unless you where living under a rock, then you know a close source to Microsoft (and former employee) leaked the specs for the next XBOX over Super-Bowl weekend earlier this year - they sucked. The XBOX NEXT (as Microsoft refers to it in the letters) - codenamed 'Durango' - has a 'low-profile' Radeon 6000 series GPU...I think a ****ty 6670. Microsoft also mentions the production cost of the XBOX NEXT will be roughly $180, and that they plan to sell this piece of crap for $399.99.

The only bright side of this is that the 6670 is a DX card, and better than the GPU in the 360, so the games WILL look better, be 1080p and have DX11 effects. Microsoft also mentions Quadcore CPU, and SSD storage device (which DOES sound great). But this is no where as amazing as consumers would 'hope'. With the 360 you got the BEST GPU on the market at the time. Microsoft spent MORE money making 360's than they sold them for, so they took a major loss it's first 2 years. But the strategy was; loss money making it, but make WAY more in the long run through Games - which they definiately DID.

Problem is, THAT market no longer exists, and what exists now is but a pale skeletual shadow of that market...and it aint getting better. So Microsoft no longer has a guarentee that they'll sale much games on their next platform - hell, their really aint that many developers to make many games for anymore anyway! - so they can't afford to take a loss at all on their next platform. Infact, they have to gouhge people, to actually 'make up' for it. So they have to do everything they can to make as cheap a console as possible, and still ask a arm and a leg, since they can't count on developers anymore. This means the next xbox will be made very cheap, and 'feel' cheap. It also means that microsoft will not be making consoles to 'last'. Instead their NEW business plan is to produce inexpensive consoles that simply offer a 'more refined' experience, and then every 3 years role out a new version with updated hardware. So instead of expensive consoles with 8 year life spans, well be getting ****ty cheap consoles with 3 year life spans. It's more lucrative for Microsoft. Just think: Apple does it! Every year Apple comes out with a new version of the same product, and they charge the same price as the year before - Microsoft is simply adpting to this business model. So Don't expect the next XBOX to 'feel' like a next gen console - like the iphone 4G - it just takes the existing graphics and tweeks them with newer lighting and effects (which should make a BIG difference), a slightly higher framerate and resolution, and a better storage device. Which sound amazing, but is far less impressive considering the console their offering a revised version of is nearly 8 years old!

5.) And Then there's the nasty rumours of neither having Backwards compatibility, and both having DRM, or somesort of security to eliminate the ability to play 'used games' which is 90% of what GAMESTOP sales (and rumoured, possibly no disc drive). If THIS happenes, which some nice GAMESTOP employees told me 'IS' (and they're headquarters is supossibly fighting it), then I doubt either will sale well at all. And point blank: IT WILL BE THE END OF THE ALREADY AILING CONSOLE GAME INDUSRTY AS WE KNOW IT.
Edited by Magicka Emperor - 4/26/12 at 7:45pm

PlayStation through and through

I personally have jumped boat, and am playing PC. I love consoles, but at the moment their pretty ****ty in the tech department. And given that the console market is so anemic, there just isnt enough games availble.

I DO know that the Nintendo Wii U (which Nintendo rescently said they're RENAMING *sigh) will probably sale better than BOTH (again, assuming there is another Playstation). Perhaps not immediately, but like the 3DS - which didnt sale well it's frist year either - I think that when people actually get ahold of the next consoles and see how ****ty they are, and how they where scammed out of they're money, and frankly how little difference in graphics between them and the Nintendo Wii, I feel they'll see the Wii U in a new light. I mean look at it this way: With the next XBOX or Sony, 90% of they're games will be availible on PC with amazingly better graphics, while on the otherhand those same games eill look the same on Nintendo Wii U. BUT the Wii U will have a platheura of 'Exclusives' and the always popular inhouse games, aswell as quite possibly the most appealing controller ever made. I mean NO GAMER, PC, Console, or other wise can deny the amazingness of the Wii U's new controller. And you KNOW that people are going to scramble to play a Next-gen High Definition Mario or Zelda game!


I know I'm preordering one. But aside from the Wii U, I think you're stupid if you invest too much time or money into the next homeconsoles until about a year AFTER they're release. There just isnt enough proof that they'll have any 'exclusives', and they'res just TOO MUCH proof at this point that they'll be ****y. Maybe Microsoft will surprise us, maybe the console market will pick up, and maybe Sony will give tha U.S another chance and offer a quality product at a reasonable price. But at the moment it's not looking like it, and its still too earily to tell.


My opinion:

1.) Preorder a Nintendo Wii U (or whatever they rename it to)

2.) Buy, Build, or Save for a Gaming PC. Fact is, Gaming PC's are FAR more powerful than ANY console will ever be, have most the same games, means you would have to wait 2 years for 'nextgen graphics' when you can have em now. And unlike the console market which very well could dry up in the next few years, the PC market isnt dieing, and isnt reliant on the console market, so you know it'll still be around if the 'Big 2' consoles go under in the west. I should also mention, that unlike comsoles, there is NO controversy surrounding the PC indusrty. There's no restructuring, and no one suggesting they do 'this' or 'that'. The PC industry has already evolved and is confortable where it is. With crazy DRM schemes, arguements about cutting optical drives, and backwards compatability, hairbrained schemes from XBOX LIVE and PSN to cut this feature, or change that to steal more of you're money, and the constant lineup of companies going under, developer founders quiting, and EA manipulating and castrating and bastardising beloved franshises. Worse of all? DRM. I know, PCs have it. But when the console companies get their hands on it, holy ****! When the PC world got DRM, people had other options, and so it evolved and became a polished thing overtime. But until PC's which is a wide open world, where you have tons of options. The console universe is a self contained eco-system. Which means that Microsoft and Sony can be 'Hitlers' about it, and dictate that you MUST pay $60 for this, and you can't buy ANY used that. And unfortunately you have to abid by their rules. You want to play a used game? nope, because they make the console, and run the network. If they want to do away with used games, they CAN. And they can make DRM such a pain in the ass, and so restrictive that its missreble. And if you cant buy games used, then they can make it so that games ALWAYS cost $60 FOREVER! Unlike PC's where if ORIGIN sale Dragon Age II for $39.99, I can find it for $25 here, $19.99 at Gamestop, $30 there, and $9.99 on STEAM - unfotunately the console market works hand in hand with publishers and stores.......so prepare to WALLET HELL!

I say avoid it all, BUY NINTENDO, BUY PC!