Originally Posted by bakageta
The XSPC fans are actually surprisingly good, certainly no worse than the yate loons that people recommend on a budget, and as mentioned, you can get the kit without the fans. The tubing I'm not familiar with, I don't know if it's the same as the Rasa kits which has a reputation for not being great, but it's not like it costs you an arm and a leg to replace (or even brings you up to the cost of putting it together individually). It's not that the Raystorm Extreme kit is "good enough," it's that it's the exact same parts that get recommended here time and time again.
Obviously, if the bay reservoir isn't the look you want, or you need a bigger radiator than they offer, the kit isn't going to be the way to go. However, if you make a thread asking people what parts they'd recommend, I can promise that the 655 pump, the Raystorm cpu block, and the RX-series of radiators will all be listed in there. Once you get to the high end water cooling parts, they perform very similarly, and the decision comes down to price, brand loyalty, or looks. If price is high on the concern list, the Raystorm Extreme kit is very hard to beat. For most people, budget is at least somewhat of a concern, and you're not sacrificing performance here to save money. Spending $400-500 so that you get a fancier res, some rotary fittings, and some Gentle Typhoons is going to net you VERY little performance over the $300 kit. If the bling is worth it to you, though, don't let me stop you.
Perhaps instead of trying to argue with me, you could have been informing the OP that the Noctua P12s have poor static pressure, and as such, will perform quite poorly when pushing or pulling through a radiator.
Also, performance (static pressure, since we're talking about fans for rads) to noise ratio is the reason why people buy Gentile Typhoons--it's not because they are 'bling,' lol there are MUCH better looking fans out there. Want to know why I have 4 AP-15s on my rig? It has NOTHING to do with looks, brand loyalty or price. It is called 'performance and noise.' This is why I can run a 5ghz 2500k, a mosfet block, and two 7970 GPUs clocked at 1200Mhz on a single RX480 radiator and still keep my temps in check, quietly. Choosing the right parts _does_ matter. My entire rig is able to get by with only 4 quiet fans... And it is because I got four _proper_ fans for the application in which they were to be used. Apply this same methodology to the entire loop and I am sure you can see where I am going with this...
But in the end, P12s pushing through the low FPI RX on a CPU only loop will likely have 'good enough' performance, and keep one out of thermal runaway land. If one starts adding GPUs to the loop and overclocks really high, they will likely start to run into issues, though. The fans are super-quiet, so in that regard, they are not _all_ bad, just don't expect groundbreaking performance on a rad with them. The little staggered teeth on the fan blades are quite neat, too. On another note, if they are ever swapped out for something better, they make great case fans. I am not saying this because I read it somewhere, either, I am saying this about these fans because I actually _have_ some, and have tried them on a radiator. I was not pleased with the result.
I would recommend Gentle Typhoon AP-15, or as an alternative, Medium Yates if you're trying to save some money.Edited by svthomas - 4/5/12 at 2:43am