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Consumers should project their hatred toward EA in more meaningful ways. Like stop buying their Madden games year after year for a minor "roster" update.

When the money is down they'll be forced to listen. Keep applying money pressure until you see real results.
 
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Problem with that argument, is that nowhere in the article does it state how many out of the 250k votes that the ENTIRE competition received in total from the first to the last round, were for EA.
Nor do we know how many people voted for EA at each stage of the competition to be able to tally up how many out of the 250k were actually in EAs direction.
We know that EA got more votes than whoever they "beat" at each stage, but was it by 100,000 votes or was it by 10?
How many people voted at each stage?
There were around 30 different polls, so that's actually 250,000 votes devided into 30 different polls.
That's an "average" of a mere 8333 votes per voting stage.
Still seem significant to you?

Yeah, it does.

Again, 250k is a TON to survey and IF they came to a conclusion, then it's with near certainty that the entire population in question would feel the same way.

True, if it was 50.1% vs 49.9%, then yes, the actual results may be inconclusive.

However, you can in no way act like or even claim that there weren't enough people surveyed. It's true that we don't know their survey methods, but we can't say they were incorrect either.

All I'm saying is that 250k is a MONSTROUS sum of people to survey and any results other than a virtual tie is more than enough to come to a conclusion about the entire population in question.
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Yeah, it does.
Again, 250k is a TON to survey and IF they came to a conclusion, then it's with near certainty that the entire population in question would feel the same way.
True, if it was 50.1% vs 49.9%, then yes, the actual results may be inconclusive.
However, you can in no way act like or even claim that there weren't enough people surveyed. It's true that we don't know their survey methods, but we can't say they were incorrect either.
All I'm saying is that 250k is a MONSTROUS sum of people to survey and any results other than a virtual tie is more than enough to come to a conclusion about the entire population in question.

I'm almost 100% sure you didn't read what you just quoted lol.

The whole point of the post you're replying to is me explaining PRECISELY why 250k is NOWHERE NEAR the amount of people the ACTUALLY surveyed.

The received 250k votes in TOTAL over 30 individual heats/polls.

Therefore, the total number of voters across 30 individual polls cannot be equal to the number of total votes.

250,000 votes divided by 30 gives us a very rough average of 8333 votes and if we assume that each was from a person who only voted once, voters per poll. Even if that figure is not precise, it is nowhere near 250,000 for quite obvious reasons.

By your logic, the actual number of votes would be 250,000 x 30 = 7.5 MILLION votes.

That is obviously not the case as the article specifically states they only received 250k votes over the course of the competition.

Please read the post again redface.gif
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Their shrinking client-base? Wasn't Battlefield 3 one of the best selling games of the year?

It's also the best selling Battlefield game ever.

Apparently, that equates to trending downwards.
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I think you guys are reading way more into it than you need to. A poll was created, EA got the most points for being the suck. That's it...
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Originally Posted by mudman091878 View Post

Yeah, it does.
Again, 250k is a TON to survey and IF they came to a conclusion, then it's with near certainty that the entire population in question would feel the same way.
True, if it was 50.1% vs 49.9%, then yes, the actual results may be inconclusive.
However, you can in no way act like or even claim that there weren't enough people surveyed. It's true that we don't know their survey methods, but we can't say they were incorrect either.
All I'm saying is that 250k is a MONSTROUS sum of people to survey and any results other than a virtual tie is more than enough to come to a conclusion about the entire population in question.

That's only true if the surveyed were randomly selected. As soon as some guy with a semi-popular blog says "Go vote here to show EA we mean business!" the results are worthless.
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I think you guys are reading way more into it than you need to. A poll was created, EA got the most points for being the suck. That's it...

Yeah, but the worst company in America? Due to my impromptu survey of my roomate and I, The Consumerist is tied for "the worst blog in America" with The Huffington Post. It's not a very scientific survey but the votes speak for themselves biggrin.gif
Edited by gelatin_factory - 4/4/12 at 5:34pm
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Originally Posted by gelatin_factory View Post

That's only true if the surveyed were randomly selected. As soon as some guy with a semi-popular blog says "Go vote here to show EA we mean business!" the results are worthless.

Not only that, but it is impossible that there were anywhere near 250k voters for the following reasons:
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Originally Posted by mudman091878 View Post

Yeah, it does.
Again, 250k is a TON to survey and IF they came to a conclusion, then it's with near certainty that the entire population in question would feel the same way.
True, if it was 50.1% vs 49.9%, then yes, the actual results may be inconclusive.
However, you can in no way act like or even claim that there weren't enough people surveyed. It's true that we don't know their survey methods, but we can't say they were incorrect either.
All I'm saying is that 250k is a MONSTROUS sum of people to survey and any results other than a virtual tie is more than enough to come to a conclusion about the entire population in question.
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I'm almost 100% sure you didn't read what you just quoted lol.

The whole point of the post you're replying to is me explaining PRECISELY why 250k is NOWHERE NEAR the amount of people the ACTUALLY surveyed.

They received 250k votes in TOTAL over 30 individual heats/polls.

Therefore, the total number of voters across 30 individual polls cannot be equal to the number of total votes.
250,000 votes divided by 30 gives us a very rough average of 8333 votes and if we assume that each was from a person who only voted once, very roughly 8333 voters per poll. Even if that figure is not precise, it is nowhere near 250,000 for quite obvious reasons.

By your logic, the actual number of votes would be 250,000 x 30 = 7.5 MILLION votes.

That is obviously not the case as the article specifically states they only received 250k votes over the course of the competition.

Please read the post again redface.gif

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Elementary and all that.
Edited by GrizzleBoy - 4/4/12 at 5:32pm
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pfff i was half expecting to see apple win but this is an acceptable winner in my books

Apple...really? The company with better customer support than almost anyone else is your idea of the worst company? You've obviously never owned one of their products, but I had the home button wear out on my iPhone and they gave me a brand new one for free...even though I was SIX months out of my warranty. I also have a Macbook that died after I swapped the HDD for an Intel SSD and they gave me a new one, even after it turned out that my SSD was what had died.

Back on topic, EA is pretty bad but I still hate Bank of America much more because the implications of their shady business practices are far more important in the grand scheme of things.
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Apple...really? The company with better customer support than almost anyone else is your idea of the worst company? You've obviously never owned one of their products, but I had the home button wear out on my iPhone and they gave me a brand new one for free...even though I was SIX months out of my warranty. I also have a Macbook that died after I swapped the HDD for an Intel SSD and they gave me a new one, even after it turned out that my SSD was what had died.
Back on topic, EA is pretty bad but I still hate Bank of America much more because the implications of their shady business practices are far more important in the grand scheme of things.

They gave you a free iPhone even though yours was out of warranty, and they gave you a free MacBook even though the SSD you put in there died and there was nothing wrong with the actual laptop and you're complaining about it?

EDIT: Ignore that I miss read what you wrote doh.gif
    
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While EA is a pretty bad company, I can think of worse company in the world.
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Still refusing to buy EA products no matter how good they are. Have been for years now. I have never installed origins, and will never buy a origin-exclusive game. No regrets. It's a terrible greedy company and people should stop giving them money until they stop their current tactics.
Same here. After they refused to give me any more activations for Warhead, I stopped buying their games for good.
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