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post #41 of 53
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I knew it wasn't IPS when I got it, but yeah. I'd rather have IPS and HDMI inputs.
Yeah, pretty sure it's SPVA. Everyone is happy with their high margins, no one is looking to drive the price down. No one other than the Koreans....

Those monitors sell for even lower prices in Korea! Imagine the savings. Though I don't know the median income of a South Korean family/individual so we can only postulate that its even cheaper for them. Could be relatively more expensive.

These monitors are really nice. 1600p in such a low price? Who would've imagined that?!

It took ******* forever, but these high-res monitors finally reached a reasonable price. Now it just needs to happen in the US.
post #42 of 53
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I know what it refers to. HP can't afford A+. Again, they aren't Apple.

You are completely wrong; a calibrated HP ZR30W has better color reproduction than its Apple Cinema display couterpart as well as the Korean monitors that have been overhyped in this forum. In fact, even the 10-bit 30" Korean monitors (which sell for $800ish) are no where as good as the HP ZR30W.

The ZR30W also is competing directly in specs with the slightly more expensive Dell U3011, which is another great monitor.

So I don't know where you get your idea of HP, which is a multi-billion dollar corporation not being able to "afford" A+ displays.
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post #43 of 53
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It took ******* forever, but these high-res monitors finally reached a reasonable price. Now it just needs to happen in the US.

I think it was an intel conference that happened recently (just saw on VR-Zone) but it is predicted that mainstream will have an evolution to 1440p next year, and high end 27"+ will go into 3k.

This is all speculation though.

I don't see why they don't make them in the US as either TN or eIPS. Guess US consumers have to wait 1 year.
     
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post #44 of 53
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VA panels generally tend to have deeper blacks than IPS or TN panels. This in turn increases contrast as well. That's most of what they got going for them. The viewing angles aren't as good due to horizontal gamma shift and they tend to be slower in terms of ghosting, making them not as suitable for fast paced content as IPS or TN panels.

I agree mate!

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post #45 of 53
There's some info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFT_LCD regarding panel types.
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VA panels generally tend to have deeper blacks than IPS or TN panels. This in turn increases contrast as well. That's most of what they got going for them. The viewing angles aren't as good due to horizontal gamma shift and they tend to be slower in terms of ghosting, making them not as suitable for fast paced content as IPS or TN panels.

I thought PVA's still had better viewing angles than TNs? At least they do if my own 2407WFP was any indication, the 23" TN panel I'm using temporarily definitely has worse viewing angles. Wasn't able to notice any ghosting but that doesn't say anything... my largest issue was the input lag. I can definitely feel the difference without 30ms added onto my ping during TF2 games. Interesting to hear about the blacks though, totally did not know that! Also, that sucks to hear as I felt there was room for improvement, so I wonder about IPS now...

I was able to get a refund on the non-working zr2740w I had ordered, but decided against exchanging it. So, what good panels are left? If CCFL's are required for a high color gamut, is there anything other than the U2711? Let alone anything that meets that criteria and is still 16:10...

As I read it, Samsung's new PLS is a close second to IPS, but doesn't exceed it? Is that right? And there aren't any affordable RGB LED monitors around yet?
post #46 of 53
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I thought PVA's still had better viewing angles than TNs? At least they do if my own 2407WFP was any indication, the 23" TN panel I'm using temporarily definitely has worse viewing angles. Wasn't able to notice any ghosting but that doesn't say anything... my largest issue was the input lag. I can definitely feel the difference without 30ms added onto my ping during TF2 games. Interesting to hear about the blacks though, totally did not know that! Also, that sucks to hear as I felt there was room for improvement, so I wonder about IPS now...

Yeah VA viewing angles are generally better than TN. I edited the first sentence there and didn't see that it would affect the viewing angle observation, wasn't paying attention. tongue.gif

Samsung's newer cPVA and A-MVA panels will fair better than older S-PVA panels in terms of black levels. Whether the difference is worth it is another issue.

The input lag is mostly an issue on older S-PVA panels, one of these being the 2407wfp. tongue.gif


If your following paragraph means you're just still interested in a 2560* monitor but can't decide which one, it's still the choice of: ZR2740w for low input lag, u2711 for functionality and inputs, samsung s27a850d (or 850t) for lesser AG. (Though samsung QC is questionable) Not sure what you meant there.

Whether RGB LED monitors are "affordable" is debatable. They aren't that expensive. But not worth it for the vast majority. Especially considering that their main upside is a wider gamut, which is desirable by most due to most content being sRGB.
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post #47 of 53
Awesome, thanks for the fast reply De-Zant!

I should have been way more specific... I want the best picture quality possible, without ghosting, with minimal input lag, and at a price that's competitive with similar quality panels. The zr2740w was $600 and the U2711 was around $900, so that's the range for 27". Anything higher seemed like skipping straight to 30" would be best, not that such a thing would even fit on this desk. And 16:10 is a huge plus, but not absolute. I know I'm asking for about everything... biggrin.gif But I plan to use this for movies, gaming, and heavy desktop use, so its going to be used for everything. And when I buy electronics I buy them for a long time, so I have no problem with investing in a higher price, higher quality display that will last.

My 2407WFP was good, it lasted six years before the power supply board went on it. I am getting the PSB replaced for $35 so I can ditch this TN panel, and will have time to shop around for deals now. The HP zr2740w looked like a decent upgrade to this, the input lag was ~10ms instead of ~30ms (The 2409WFP had the worst, 60ms by one site), and despite the WLEDs the HP monitor has a slightly better color gamut than the 2407. But the U2711 has a higher quality display with a full color range with its CCFL, and costs more. I don't really care what panel type a monitor has as long as it's the best for image quality + gaming really. wink.gif There was a PLS Samsung out, but the review I saw had it performing/ghosting exactly like my PVA in their review of it. I really don't know anymore what monitor I should be looking for, just that if I'm going to fork out that much money it'd better be a damn good one!

I couldn't really notice any issue with the matte anti-glare on the zr2740, although without a picture actually on it I couldn't say for sure. I'm not a fan of glossy screens but the AG I've seen people talking about doesn't seem to bother me. If my zr2740w hadn't been doa I'd probably just have stuck to using it really.
Edited by Kougar - 4/12/12 at 3:16pm
post #48 of 53
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You are completely wrong; a calibrated HP ZR30W has better color reproduction than its Apple Cinema display couterpart as well as the Korean monitors that have been overhyped in this forum. In fact, even the 10-bit 30" Korean monitors (which sell for $800ish) are no where as good as the HP ZR30W.
The ZR30W also is competing directly in specs with the slightly more expensive Dell U3011, which is another great monitor.
So I don't know where you get your idea of HP, which is a multi-billion dollar corporation not being able to "afford" A+ displays.

A company nearing bankruptcy can't afford A+ anything. A company that makes $200 laptops does not make high quality monitors. Simple, really.
post #49 of 53
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Lol, you guys are funny. I'm just enjoying my monitor now that I got it all resolved free of charge. Stand is a huge bonus as well.

Kougar, the the response time of this panel is quite good. You won't get the silky smooth move-a-window-around-in-a-circle effect on it, but it's far from noticeable in things like FPS's. The AG is greatly exaggerated by people, but is present enough to give a "softer" look fine details. sorry yours was DOA, their QC isn't great but at least it doesn't take long for them to set things right if you don't mind making friends with UPS tongue.gif
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Yes, the OP is fine here. I just think he would be better off with cash back via Squaretrade versus the endless HP warranty thing where he gets ****ed in the end away .
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Uhh, no!
Edited by Rushnerd - 4/12/12 at 5:11pm
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post #50 of 53
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A company nearing bankruptcy can't afford A+ anything. A company that makes $200 laptops does not make high quality monitors. Simple, really.

Just leave. HP makes some phenomenal IPS monitors and the ENVY laptops are very well built.
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