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The reason that his download was only 94 mb/s when he was hooked up to the 100mb/s port is because of overhead. Networks have overhead and it is a calculateable value.

I know on my phone with the tether, when I am pulling 30mb/s down on the phone, my upload sits at roughly 200kb/s. That is overhead on the network, it needs that extra data to keep everything running smoothly.

Go pick yourself up a router with gigabit ports and you will be all set.
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The reason that his download was only 94 mb/s when he was hooked up to the 100mb/s port is because of overhead. Networks have overhead and it is a calculateable value.
I know on my phone with the tether, when I am pulling 30mb/s down on the phone, my upload sits at roughly 200kb/s. That is overhead on the network, it needs that extra data to keep everything running smoothly.
Go pick yourself up a router with gigabit ports and you will be all set.

You have to remember not all Routers with Gigabit ports allow the proper amount of LAN to WAN throughput.
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Anyway people, I asked 150Mbit because I wanted to wonder if you could use unused bandwidth on upload side.

The real situation is max I can get is 100Mbit, to milk every single bit from the line, do I really need a gigabit router? or will my full duplex 100Mbit router fit perfectly?
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Anyway people, I asked 150Mbit because I wanted to wonder if you could use unused bandwidth on upload side.
The real situation is max I can get is 100Mbit, to milk every single bit from the line, do I really need a gigabit router? or will my full duplex 100Mbit router fit perfectly?

In theory, it's supposed to "fit perfectly."

In practice, depending on the router quality, it may or may not bottleneck your connection. However, the loss of throughput from a sub-par router would be less than the throughput lost if going down another connection speed.

I say go for the 100Mb and upgrade your infrastructure if you see a need. A good way to test would be to hook a 1Gb computer up directly to your modem and compare it's speeds to when behind the router.
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no it doesnt work that way, you cant get 150Mbps DOWN/ 50Mbps Up connection and take 50Mbps and put it on the uplink so you have 100/100.. not that i have ever heard off or seen done smile.gif
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In theory, it's supposed to "fit perfectly."
In practice, depending on the router quality, it may or may not bottleneck your connection. However, the loss of throughput from a sub-par router would be less than the throughput lost if going down another connection speed.
I say go for the 100Mb and upgrade your infrastructure if you see a need. A good way to test would be to hook a 1Gb computer up directly to your modem and compare it's speeds to when behind the router.

Can you directly hook it up a WAN internet cable to your computer's LAN port and make it work? I also thought about that but not quiet sure about it. If that works, I'll try that out
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Can you directly hook it up a WAN internet cable to your computer's LAN port and make it work? I also thought about that but not quiet sure about it. If that works, I'll try that out

You can, yup. Some modems require that you reboot them before you switch the device that it's hooked up to.

Basically all the modem does is act as a DHCP server to your router. It assigns it an IP address on it's own subnet so that the router and the modem can communicate. Plugging your computer into the modem basically does the same thing, but this time the computer receives and IP address from the modem.

The reason you sometimes have to reboot the modem is because they tend to be a bit more stubborn about IP leases. Some modems are set to only allow one IP (or MAC address) at a time.

EDIT:
Just thought I'd add that basically the only difference between the WAN port and LAN ports on a standard home router is that the WAN port is on the opposite side of the firewall (and NAT) as the LAN ports. Otherwise, the WAN port doesn't do anything all that special, and in fact, some custom firmwares like DD-WRT allow you to reconfigure your router to be all LAN ports.

Just figured that might clear up why you can connect directly to a modem with your computer.
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You can, yup. Some modems require that you reboot them before you switch the device that it's hooked up to.
Basically all the modem does is act as a DHCP server to your router. It assigns it an IP address on it's own subnet so that the router and the modem can communicate. Plugging your computer into the modem basically does the same thing, but this time the computer receives and IP address from the modem.
The reason you sometimes have to reboot the modem is because they tend to be a bit more stubborn about IP leases. Some modems are set to only allow one IP (or MAC address) at a time.

Okay last question, by modem do you mean the device inside the box they put inside your building(Since I have ADSL I use modem and router term for same device, so I'm kinda confused tongue.gif)?
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Okay last question, by modem do you mean the device inside the box they put inside your building(Since I have ADSL I use modem and router term for same device, so I'm kinda confused tongue.gif)?

Ahhh I gotcha. I had assumed fiber or cable with those speeds.

In that case my idea won't work, my apologies. However, one would assume that the modem/router they give you would be able to handle the services they offer. That would depend on whether or not you are leasing your modem from your ISP, I guess.

I'm actually impressed though, there isn't anything close to 100Mb ADSL where I live. frown.gif
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Ahhh I gotcha. I had assumed fiber or cable with those speeds.
In that case my idea won't work, my apologies. However, one would assume that the modem/router they give you would be able to handle the services they offer. That would depend on whether or not you are leasing your modem from your ISP, I guess.
I'm actually impressed though, there isn't anything close to 100Mb ADSL where I live. frown.gif

No, no, don't get me wrong.

I currently have ADSL, but I'm going to ditch that and get Fiber internet soon.

My router supports both ADSL and WAN connections.
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