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Thread Starter 
Hello everyone,

Still rounding up a bunch of odds and ends, but I'm unsure of one thing. How many fans do I fundamentally need for my M10 case? The only thing introducing heat will be RAM, and perhaps residual from the PSU. GPUs, CPU, and Mobo will be on water, and the radiator will not be in the case.

Thoughts?
 
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post #2 of 6
i would say 1-2 intake and 1-2 outtake.
post #3 of 6
if you have that case why not fill it? honestly you can just use one or two but you have a massive case designed for internal water cooling why not use it?
post #4 of 6
what mobo? i run one intake and one exhaust to keep a little bit of air moving just because my mobo mosfets put out some pretty serious heat (990fxa ud5). everything else is under water except the ram, which really doesnt require any cooling
    
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Radiator will not be in the case... CaseLabs M10... What?
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post #6 of 6
Thread Starter 
Some answers:
- Rampage IV Extreme will have EK water block, shouldn't be noticeable heat from the mobo.
- Less fans means less noise
- My Watercool MO-RA3 4x180 won't fit well in the case, Jim said a 9 x 120 would but it was not optimal and a bit too tight. Also, given my room consideration, I have an opportunity to do something interesting with the radiator to keep all heat out of my room.

I game/sim race next to it, so I don't want the heat or the noise.

If I was starting fresh, I might have gotten the M10 with extended top to blow two radiators straight up, but again, I think I can place the radiator in the HVAC return (it has a great deal of room inside it right by my rig) so the heat will be dissipated quickly.

Thanks for the advice. Now to find which quiet fans to use!
 
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Bitspower Compression fittings - shiny Noiseblocker NB-BlackSilentPro PK-1 140mm x 25m... Noiseblocker NB-Multiframe M12-S1 120mmx25mm Ul... EK-Supreme HF - Acetal+EN (Nickel) 
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24v PMP-450S RP-45X2 version 2.0 CTR-SPD24X2 Dual 24V Pump Controller Primochill LRT 1/2" x 3/4" 
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Razer Naga Epic Razer Megasoma Sennheiser PC360 FiiO E10 Headphone DAC/Amp 
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Simcraft Apex 3 GT Motion Simulator CubeControls N35 Wheel + Quick Release CubeControls Cube GT Wheel + Quick Release CubeControls SLI-Box 
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EVGA GeForce GTX 680 SC+ w/Backplate CORSAIR DOMINATOR GT 16GB  Samsung 830 Pioneer BDR-206DBK 12x Internal Blu-ray Disc/DV... 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Bitspower Compression fittings - shiny Noiseblocker NB-BlackSilentPro PK-1 140mm x 25m... Noiseblocker NB-Multiframe M12-S1 120mmx25mm Ul... EK-Supreme HF - Acetal+EN (Nickel) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Lamptron FC4 Lamptron FC8 EK GeForce 680 GTX VGA Liquid Cooling Block EK GeForce 680 GTX VGA Liquid Cooling Block 
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EK GeForce 680 GTX VGA Liquid Cooling Block EK-FC680 GTX Backplate EK-FC680 GTX Backplate EK-RAM Dominator - Acetal+EN (Nickel) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
EK-FC680 GTX Backplate EK-RAM Dominator - Acetal+EN (Nickel) Watercool MO-RA3 4 x 180mm PRO Extreme Radiator... 24v PMP-450S 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
24v PMP-450S RP-45X2 version 2.0 CTR-SPD24X2 Dual 24V Pump Controller Primochill LRT 1/2" x 3/4" 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
Koolance Quick Disconnect VL3N Windows 7 x64 Asus VG278H 27-Inch LED 3D Monitor Asus VG278H 27-Inch LED 3D Monitor 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Asus VG278H 27-Inch LED 3D Monitor Microsoft wireless Silverstone ST1500 CaseLabs M10 and Pedestal 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Razer Naga Epic Razer Megasoma Sennheiser PC360 FiiO E10 Headphone DAC/Amp 
OtherOtherOtherOther
Simcraft Apex 3 GT Motion Simulator CubeControls N35 Wheel + Quick Release CubeControls Cube GT Wheel + Quick Release CubeControls SLI-Box 
OtherOtherOtherOther
CST Gated Shifter DSD Sequential Shifter Bodnar FFB Wheel Hydraulic Tilton 600 Series Pedals 
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Cobra Technology Evolution Pro Outlast Carbon F... CubeControls Formula Momo Wheel + Quick Release 
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