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I'll preface this with saying I have about 10 TB of hard drive space right now, 80% of it used. None of it is RAID. They are degrading, and I hate that. I have a very nice computer, but I want to build a box JUST for storage.

So, I've been wanting, for a long time now, to build a box specifically for RAID 5. I found this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816321023

It's got 3 x 5 drive support, meaning that with 3 TB drives, I could have 36 TB total without worrying about a drive failing. However, for the past few weeks, I've been searching and searching and can't seem to find the perfect one. This one seems great, except the power supply is a little dull, it doesn't mention anything about Ethernet.

Basically, what I'm looking to do is get a box that looks like that; shaped like a large cable box. I don't want one of the taller ones. I know I could build it on my own; if it comes down to that I will. However, I'm quite certain that somewhere out there, there exists a product that can do what I want it to.

I want it to:
Handle at least 12 drives, preferably 15 +.
Already have a RAID controller, preferably RAID 0/1/3/5/10/JBOD/CLONE on each group. I'm sure it'll mostly be RAID 5, but what the hell, right?
Have Ethernet so I can connect it to my network. I know they make HTPCs, but they are generally 4TB or something, and terribly overpriced
Be able to be a virtual drive (or drives) on my home computers, and use it for XBMC and subsonic as well

In a nutshell, I want a pretty looking RAID box that's not a computer tower. I want it to be able to just plug into the wall and the network at home and have access to it on my PCs. I want RAID 5.


Sorry, I know it's a lot to ask; I've been looking everywhere, and I'm probably going to wind up doing a custom build, but if anyone has experience in this field, I'd greatly appreciate it.

If anyone could help me, I'd so greatly appreciate it, and I'd be more than honored to return a favor.

-Chris
    
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its a nice little box, by the looks you can connect it to a host machine via eSATA comes with hardware RAID by the looks or as far as I can tell.. only thing is to make it a separate storage server or NAS you have to get a ATX mobo, CPU and RAM then you can have Ethernet.. a H67 mobo, I3 and 4GB of RAM should work nicely for this.. thinking.gif
http://www.habeyusa.com/products_show.php?id=381&menu=1
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Thanks, mate. I just realized that perhaps this should've been posted in HTPC...I'll find out within 24 hours, I'm sure lol. I appreciate your quick response.

My only question is, getting the mobo cpu ram etc will cost an extra ~$500, which isn't a big deal. The big deal is...where will it go in that case? Will it all fit?

I suppose I could use eSata, and I know I will, from time to time. Mainly, however, I want this to be able to stand alone. I know I could just build a box like this that fits 15 hdds, install a p8p67 deluxe with a video card ram and i7 2600k, install an OS, and it'd be good for life, but I'd prefer to not have to go through all the hassle of trial and error, especially in finding the right box.
    
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if you look at the link i provided and look at the pics of the case open, i can see what looks to be motherboard standoffs in the big open space.. just to be sure what size mobo i would contact Habey and confirm.. also see on the back theres a flat panel, that looks to be where the mobo's extranal faceplate and ports go.. this is just what i can make out.. Contact and confirm thumb.gif
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post #5 of 7
somthing like this Norco would be nice, you can fit in your mobo and has slots for your graphics card and other PCIe/PCI cards as well, just look at the pics etc smile.gif
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811219033
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I would not run that many drives, especially 3TB each, in only RAID 5. You are rolling the dice on losing another drive during a rebuild. RAID 6 is pushing it for that amount of space and amount of drives. I would look into something like RAID 60 or using something with triple parity, like RAID-Z3. When you want to be in the game of huge amounts of capacity, you need to realize that at least two drives worth of space should be going towards parity. In this high capacity game you will also spend tons of money on a backup solution that is safe.
 
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I would not run that many drives, especially 3TB each, in only RAID 5. You are rolling the dice on losing another drive during a rebuild. RAID 6 is pushing it for that amount of space and amount of drives. I would look into something like RAID 60 or using something with triple parity, like RAID-Z3. When you want to be in the game of huge amounts of capacity, you need to realize that at least two drives worth of space should be going towards parity. In this high capacity game you will also spend tons of money on a backup solution that is safe.

i agree with this ^^ tho i was under the impression your were going to run 3 groups of 5 drives having 3 x RAID 5 arrays? even at 5 drives / group the 2 drive failure tolerance of RAID 6 might be better as at 5 drives/array double parity is fine smile.gif
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