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What does the kepler 660m compare to in the 5m series? Looking to upgrade and was looking at the msi ones with the 580m wondering how a 660m will compare or if its just a rebranded 560m with less power usage like the 560 was a rebrand basicly of the 460.
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What does the kepler 660m compare to in the 5m series? Looking to upgrade and was looking at the msi ones with the 580m wondering how a 660m will compare or if its just a rebranded 560m with less power usage like the 560 was a rebrand basicly of the 460.

Consider this: the 670M is a rebranded 570M clocked 25mhz higher / 5% faster overall. There's not much wiggle room to make the 660M much faster than the 560M. If it's 10% faster, yay I suppose? 680M is the real deal, hoping it has 768 CUDA cores.

So yes, 660M is a 28nm Kepler card that will perform just slightly faster than the 560M.
 
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The screen flexes means it's terrible build quality? You realize that the highest-end vehicles flex while driving, race cars, Formula cars, etc. all flex. Just because a screen flexes doesn't mean it's weak. You can make it not flex, and now you have stress concentrations at the hinge. Open the screen from the center, no issues with screen flex.
Anyways, you don't have any data on durability, it's kind of pointless arguing. I merely pointed out that the Y580 will have the same specs as the G75, cost $900, and pretty much it's loaded. If you'd rather have a 17" laptop with the same specs, same resolution, and 3.6 pounds of extra weight, feel free. Still doesn't make the G75 a worthy upgrade over 2011 gaming laptops.

I agree that the y580 has excellent specs for the price and I'm sure it's an awesome system, especially because of the screen. My point was only in that my time using a y460/70 and a y570 is that the build quality of the machines seems 3rd rate. I can't speak to how long they'll last because I've maybe only logged 100 hours between all 3 systems, but they don't feel solid when using them. I get that screens flex and that may or may not mean anything, but it definitely doesn't do much for the end user experience, same with the flimsy plastic that makes up the palmrest area, the whole computer just seems of a lower grade of quality. BUT, that's perfectly okay, it's got awesome specs and a seriously great price, it's a great value and i'm with you, I'd probably recommend it to a friend over a G75. I'm just playing devil's advocate because while a G75 is a lot more expensive, it *is* a better computer.
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Nononono.
The Sager NP 9270 is a desktop replacement.
These, by comparison, are like netbooks. tongue.gif
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It's awfully nice build quality and all and ASUS lappies are top quality but that sager... mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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I agree that the y580 has excellent specs for the price and I'm sure it's an awesome system, especially because of the screen. My point was only in that my time using a y460/70 and a y570 is that the build quality of the machines seems 3rd rate. I can't speak to how long they'll last because I've maybe only logged 100 hours between all 3 systems, but they don't feel solid when using them. I get that screens flex and that may or may not mean anything, but it definitely doesn't do much for the end user experience, same with the flimsy plastic that makes up the palmrest area, the whole computer just seems of a lower grade of quality. BUT, that's perfectly okay, it's got awesome specs and a seriously great price, it's a great value and i'm with you, I'd probably recommend it to a friend over a G75. I'm just playing devil's advocate because while a G75 is a lot more expensive, it *is* a better computer.

Fair enough. I don't mean to sound like the Y580 is built like a tank, but it's certainly durable enough for day-to-day use. The Asus perhaps can take a bigger beating, but also consider that heavier machines need to be more durable - an 8.6 pound laptop dropping from 3 feet will have 43% more impact force than a 6 pound laptop dropping from the same height. But also note that these Y480/Y580 chassis are slightly different than the Y470/570, so you can't discredit them quite yet. And, a 3-year accidental warranty for ~$150 still puts it cheaper than the Asus G75. My opinion, Y580 is better for the aforementioned reasons.

Again, my main gripe with the G75 is that it offers little performance gain over the G74 (this is as much Nvidia's fault for rebranding, as it is Asus's for deciding not to give consumers a 670M option). Toss in a more powerful GPU and finally, there will be a reason for G53/G73 users to upgrade. Power efficiency isn't the most important criteria for a 17" gaming laptop, performance is. And sure, you can say the G75 is better, but I'd counter that the MSi Force 1761, Sager NP8131/8151 are better and faster than the G75 at a better price. Asus G-series is on thin ice when you have a 15.6" "consumer laptop" tying a 17.3" "gaming laptop".
 
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@ jrbroad77

Bro regarding the I7 3610QM, i can tell you for sure that they are allready in the market. I was tempted to buy one last weekend, to be more specific i was going to buy a barebone Clevo P150EM with I7 3610QM with GTX 675M, they had 25 units for sale, I can tell you that in 2 or 3 days they sold them all out. But they still have fully configured P150EM and P170EM for sale with better I7 CPU than the barebone. (they don't have barbones anymore).
Regarding the GTX 660M i'm curious to see how it performs, since the gt 640m with slower clocks and DDR3 performed very well, and the Acer M3 also showed very good results regarding battery life ( although it used an I7 ULV 17w), I'm hopping it will perform a bit better than 560M and will have better performance regarding battery life since, and since it's 28nm let's see how far it will go once people test its overclocking capabilities.
I didn't choose the barebone because i want to see if we have some news regarding amd or nvidia on 28nm, and to be honest the design of the Clevo isn't exactly my favourite smile.gif I like Asus G55 design, very cool in my opinion.

This is the link were you can see the Clevo with I7 Ivy Bridge for sale wink.gif The store is near my place, like 20KM.

http://wsi-bg.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=134&Itemid=43&TreeId=1
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I pride myself on never being a first adopter. But I'm curious to see how this thing goes. No doubt given the popularity of their current gaming-capable laptops, this one ought to do well too.
    
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I am interesting in buying my first gaming laptop. I just did 4 years worth of tax returns and got a lot back lol. I was looking into the G74 or 75. However the price point on that Lenovo is great. How good is the quality of Lenovo computers? I know next to nothing about the company.

Seems like the ventilation the y570 has would not be adequate for long gaming sessions.
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- 17.3" FHD 16:9 "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright LED Glossy Screen w/ 90% NTSC Color Gamut (1920x1080)
(Will add 4-7 business days to build time) (SKU - X1R507)
- NO Professional Monitor Color Calibration
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- Sager - Intel® Core™ i7-3820, 3.6-3.8GHz (32nm, 10MB L3 cache – 4 cores / 8 threads) (SKU – S2N125)
- - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
- SLi ENABLED DUAL (2) 2048MB PCI-Express nVIDIA GTX 675M's (4096MB Total) w/ GDDR5 DX11 Video Cards (User Upgradeable)
+ Extra AC Adapter & Power Converter Box (SKU - S3R707)
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- 8GB - DDR3 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS) (SKU - S4R371)
- Remove All Branding
- Standard Finish
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- 500GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache) (SKU - S6R210)
- None Standard
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- No Extra Optical Bay Hard Drive Caddy
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- NO External USB Optical Drive
- Internal 9-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini SD/SDHC/SDXC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo)
- No Back Up Software
- Bluetooth Included (See “Wireless Network” Section Below)
- Sager - Intel® Ultimate-N 6300 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module (SKU - S8R112)
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
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- No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
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- No Operating System Standard - Drivers & Utility Software Only
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- LIFETIME Ltd Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime -24/7 DOMESTIC Based- Toll Free Telephone Tech Support (Labor Warranty through Xotic PC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Warranty Repairs (SKU - X9R009)
- No Outside of US Shipping Coverage
- No Xotic PC Gear
It's awfully nice build quality and all and ASUS lappies are top quality but that sager... mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I'd argue about that. ASUS are far from top quality. The cooling isnt very good. They dont equip their laptops with high and highest end hardware.

If you want gaming laptop i would choose MSI. Just because of the difference DYNaudio can make in games or when watching films. Asus sound cant compare to it. Cooling is also better on MSI as well as loudness and temps - Confirmed from users ( us) from NBR. Also noticed a glossy screen ( personal preference ) and 8gb of Ram ( could come down to personal preference as well ). There is quite a bunch of things this laptop is missing over MSI laptop /or uses worse solution ( such as sound ).

But, if you think Sager or Asus is better choice then who am i to hold you from that purchase, right wink.gifredface.gif
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